firstdown
07-02-2007, 12:04 PM
Well then perhaps before we start casting stones at Tank and his "character" we should start with cleaning out our closet. I mean unless our closet is clean we should not be riding the holly train. So....maybe Gibbs can start with letting one of our famous thugs go....Sean Taylor. I do belive he had a gun incident, no? I mean some people like to think guns have no real purpose so why did he get himself involved in an incident involving guns? Then he went and got charged with DUI. Ok...he was found not guilty. but he was involved. Gotta be a thug...Gotta go. next. how about Fred Smoot. Gotta Go. Wasn't he involved in some burlesque show on the water....ok maybe not a thug per say but was convicted of something or other. Gotta Go. not very...how would Gibbs say it....very christian like. unfortunatly I have not looked into their college careers to see what trouble the rest have gotten into but I would think a good start would be Sean and Fred. Then maybe we can start the character bashing. or maybe the skins see talent as they did with Sean and sign Tank and put restrictions in place. Every one forgets that not everyone knows the laws in every state and they all differ. He may not be responsible to register in Arizona. He's young and stupid. I see these types of people all the time. I'm not saying he's a saint. but keep in mind some people have alot of talent and they are not legal smart. not everyone thinks to check laws that might effect them when moving to a new county let alone state. DUI. slap him and get it over with. The NFL is not the Federal Gov. We are not talking Ricky Williams here or Pacman( who seems to love his possie more then his paycheck and career). If I'm not mistaken he's not the only NFL player to get a DUI. If he was not disrespectful to the police and followed directions then chalk it up to being young and stupid. I'm sure put in the right environment (as Fred Smoot said) Tank may flourish and keep the peace.
Tanks issue with guns was from a prior conviction (not sure what that one was) which made it a crime for him to own any guns. He went to jail for having guns when he was not allowed by law to own or have them. He then gets out and gets arrested again. So it is three infractions which we are talking about which he is showing a pattern of getting in trouble. With that said he could fill a big need.
skinsfan_nn
07-02-2007, 09:36 PM
Tank wasn't legally drunk, missed it by a fuzz. Man I bet the shitbird team, that's gonna make a run to pick up this shitbird fells much better....?
SI.com - NFL - Former Bear Johnson under legal limit in DUI arrest - Monday July 2, 2007 6:40PM (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/07/02/tank.johnson.ap/index.html)
dallass-blows 2
07-02-2007, 09:41 PM
we can turn him around!!!!!
NOT
skinsfan69
07-02-2007, 09:59 PM
Tank wasn't legally drunk, missed it by a fuzz. Man I bet the shitbird team, that's gonna make a run to pick up this shitbird fells much better....?
SI.com - NFL - Former Bear Johnson under legal limit in DUI arrest - Monday July 2, 2007 6:40PM (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/07/02/tank.johnson.ap/index.html)
The problem I have w/ this clown is he gets out of jail and says he wants to be the NFL man of the year. Then he is out at 3:30am drinking and driving. It's not against the law to be out at that time but he's got his career on the line. You just got out of jail and your on real thin ice w/ your employer. Why are you drinking and driving? Why not keep your ass home, or just go out to dinner with you GF or wife and go home at 10pm/11pm? If you have a drink or two take a damn cab. Same w/ Pac Man. He's out with some losers at a strip club and trouble starts. Why go to strip clubs w/ guys that have guns? You just got into a maylay and a man was shot and will never walk again. Isn't that enough to scare the shit out of you? Yet he's right back at a stripclub when he has his whole career on the line. Sorry but it's real hard to feel sorry for guys like this. And now it looks like they are going to pay the price by losing a ton of money and possibly not playing in the NFL ever again.
djnemo65
07-02-2007, 11:07 PM
While I agree that Tank's past infractions warrant the condemnation he has received, am I the only one who feels the fact that he wasn't in violation of the law this time is pretty significant? I'm not saying we should sign him, but I still think Tank can get it turned around.
SmootSmack
07-02-2007, 11:10 PM
While I agree that Tank's past infractions warrant the condemnation he has received, am I the only one who feels the fact that he wasn't in violation of the law this time is pretty significant? I'm not saying we should sign him, but I still think Tank can get it turned around.
That's fine, but let him turn his life around on his own time. Not on our time. If he turns things around then maybe we can give him a call
djnemo65
07-02-2007, 11:37 PM
That's fine, but let him turn his life around on his own time. Not on our time. If he turns things around then maybe we can give him a call
Oh I agree that we shouldn't pursue him. I just think that, while his past crimes were truly bad, there isn't anything wrong with someone having a few beers and driving home within the legal limit. Maybe I am saying the Bears shouldn't have cut him without all the facts being in.
SBXVII
07-03-2007, 12:06 AM
Lets be honest. Today's society would rather have the tolerance level at 0. He is young. I don't care how you want to chalk it up but he is young and not using his brain as "most" young people do. I know alot of people who are young and follow the norm but most young adults tend to make the wrong decisions without guidance. Usually this comes from someone who they respect...maybe parents or another player. Their in college and it's all play play play. drinking games, parties etc...then pull them from college and give them alot of money. I did not know of any previous gun charges or any previous charges period. I say sign him. give him a strict contract with an out for us if he screws up. He will have what 6-8 wks to prove himself and learn the playbook. Everyone is screeming we need a DT or DE well here he is and he would not even be a cancer because he would not be here. atleast not until the half way point which might be when we need help due to injuries.
DGreene28
07-03-2007, 02:48 PM
Monday, July 2, 2007
Updated: July 3, 8:21 AM ET
Test results: Johnson's blood alcohol level was .072
ESPN.com news services
GILBERT, Ariz. -- Blood tests show former Chicago Bears (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=chi) defensive tackle Tank Johnson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6806)'s blood alcohol level was below the legal limit when he was arrested on suspicion of drunken driving June 22, police said Monday.
Johnson's blood alcohol level was .072, under the presumptive limit in Arizona of .08 percent, Gilbert police Sgt. Andrew Duncan said. No charges have been filed pending results of a completed investigation, and Duncan declined further comment.
Under Arizona law, Johnson could still face a charge for "impairment to the slightest degree." The state has separate charges for blood alcohol levels of .08 or higher and .15 or higher. The "slightest degree" charge usually accompanies the other charges, but the state does not have to show any blood alcohol level to bring the minimum charge.
Lorna Propes, an attorney for Johnson, emphasized Monday that the player hadn't been charged "and the fact that his blood level came back as it did is certainly encouraging."
Johnson, whose legal name is Terry Darnell Johnson, was arrested when officers pulled him over at 3:30 a.m. for driving 40 mph in a 25 mph zone. Duncan said an officer placed him under arrest because he believed Johnson was under the influence of alcohol. He was released without being booked or charged after providing a blood sample, and police said he was very cooperative.
Johnson, 25, was released by the Chicago Bears three days after his arrest. The team said it was "upset and embarrassed" by the defensive tackle's legal troubles.
The Bears declined comment Monday.
Johnson had already had been suspended for the first eight games of the 2007 NFL season for violating probation on a gun charge. He spent two months in jail and was released in May.
Last December, police raided the 300-pound Johnson's suburban Chicago home and found six unregistered firearms -- a violation of his probation on an earlier gun charge.
Two days after the December raid, Willie B. Posey, Johnson's bodyguard, was shot and killed in an early morning fight while he and Johnson were at a Chicago nightclub.
Johnson was suspended by the Bears for one game for being at the club. He played in the Super Bowl as the Bears lost to Indianapolis.
In March, Johnson began his two-month jail stint. In May, he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor weapons charge from the December raid as part of a deal with prosecutors that kept him from serving more time in jail.
Johnson was chosen by the Bears in the second round of the 2004 draft out of Washington. He played in 46 games, starting 15.
Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
'Innocent until proven guilty' comes to mind.
Sounds like he made the responsible decision to stop drinking before he became too drunk to drive... SIGN HIM!!!