JC et al still under the radar...

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freddyg12
06-23-2007, 12:56 PM
Okay, first I am acutely aware of the disappointments surrounding this team in the past. This is not my first year as a Skins fan. However, it is my measured cautious opinion that we will be formidable this year - and I'm telling anyone who will listen. I don't understand fans who go into the season with a bad attitude. If you are a Pittsburgh Pirates fan that's one thing, but this is the NFL, and one or two teams come out of nowhere every year. Isn't it more fun to have some faith in the guys you dedicate so much time to following?

We as Skins fans look at it through Rose colored glasses, like fans of every other NFL team. Is this a problem? That's part of the fun. I respect that more than pussy footing around making a prediction, and then either hopping on the bandwagon if we are good, or saying I told you so if we aren't. I think you need to man up and take a position GF. You are getting kind of wobbly in this post. "If everything goes according to plan, we should have a nice run...." Way to take a stand my man. Yeah, I think so.

You say preseason pubs have been pretty accurate about us in the recent past....um, were you living on Mars for the 2005 season? Sports Illustrated picked us to go 4-12 I think. And last year most had us in the playoffs. Go figure.

Anyway, sorry for the pissy tone but I just get ticked when people patronize me for being optimistic about the team, like I don't follow them closely when they have been maybe the singly most important constant in my life since I was about 6 years old.

Nice, well said. I'm starting to feel really good about the Skins this season, and it's hard to separate that from the season itself & being ready for football.

The frustration w/our team is understandable, but as objective as I can be, I see the Skins being competitive. Further, I see the difference in those close games being JC, I really believe he will begin to shine.

GusFrerotte
06-23-2007, 03:07 PM
Just saying don't get too jacked up. Ever since we brought in Marty, we have had many reasons to be jacked up, whether it was a good draft, kickass FA signings, etc. I am just saying take one game at a time sort of approach. It gets frustrating starting off really geared up only to have your air let out of your tires before midseason. The preseason publications have never been friendly to us in recent years, but they have been pretty close to reality in terms of the predicted outcome. The Washington Post forum was always a trip, you always had about a dozen "homer" always saying 12-4, or 11-5 and a SB automatically. I was like that for a bit, but this is ridiculous. On paper we have a kick ass team and lately we have been in a weakend division and we still can't sweep the Cowboys or Giants, let alone get a win.

mike340
06-24-2007, 05:56 AM
Don't forget about Smoot, Macklin & Butler competing for pt at cb, plus Stoutmire & a healthy Prioleau. Golston & Montgomery will be a year better as will Rocky, who knows how good they'll really be, but we could have at least 3 new starters on D - Fletcher, Landry, & Rocky, plus Golston & Montgomery might crack the lineup.
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...and a healthy Springs!

mike340
06-24-2007, 06:06 AM
If arm strength was what you looked at to guess the success of a QB, Ramsey was your man. I have always felt this is part of the equation, but greatly overrated. As we saw, Ramsey was very "statue"-esque and had no concept of a "touch" pass.

The Redskins have already talked about the fact that JC is getting the ball out quicker than last year, and I saw a better touch pass from him last year than I ever saw from Ramsey. When you throw in the fact that he called a winning play last year when his headset went out, you know something's right. Finally, if the defense plays better than last year, so that the offense doesn't have time for a three-course dinner before going back onto the playing field, JC and the offense should be able to maintain a rhythm during the games.

If they were being honest with themselves, many would say that they felt this way about Ramsey (I among them). I loved what I saw of JC last year AND the buzz that seems to surround him. With Ramsey, I really liked what I saw but am not sure if there was quite the same "Wow" factor we are getting from some of the current players for JC. I think all the players liked Ramsey, thought he had a great arm, and admired his work ethic - I just don't remember quotes and compliments on his accuracy and ability to anticipate.

Hopefully, this will not be a replay of the Ramsey era - high hopes and disappointment. I see significant differences between the two - but I also see some similarities.

For the time I am simply crossing my fingers and cautiously hopeful.

dmek25
06-24-2007, 08:39 AM
just remember, everyone is a pro bowler this time of year

mlmpetert
06-29-2007, 10:57 AM
Heres a real short nfl.com artical saying one of the may contributors that has keeped us from being a top tier team agian is our inconsistency at QB, and that JC might be the fix. I like to see a little presure under Jason, give him more reasons to keep up the hard work

NFL.com - NFL News (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/10239756)



plus as a bonus theres a quick mention of Patrick Ramsey!!!

mlmpetert
07-06-2007, 01:39 PM
JC is starting to show up on the radar a little more:
NFL.com - NFL News (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/10246632)

I dont get what the Eli Manning Big City Presure Award is. Doesnt Eli suck?


I think this is a nice little comparison chart of new QBs (looks much better in link)

Player Team Starts Att/Comp Percent Yards TD/INT
Jason Campbell Washington 7 110/207 53.1 1,297 10/6
Brodie Croyle Kansas City 0 3/7 42.9 23 0/2
Jay Cutler Denver 5 81/137 59.1 1,001 9/5
Tarvaris Jackson Minnesota 2 47/81 58 475 2/4
Matt Leinart Arizona 11 214/371 56.8 2,547 11/12
Matt Schaub Houston 2 84/161 52.2 1,033 6/6
Tony Homo Dallas 10 220/337 65.3 2,903 19/13
Vince Young Tennessee 13 183/357 51.5 2,199 12/13
Brady Quinn Cleveland 0 0 0 0 0/0
Jamarcus Russell Oakland 0 0 0 0 0/0

firstdown
07-06-2007, 02:16 PM
JC is starting to show up on the radar a little more:
NFL.com - NFL News (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/10246632)

I dont get what the Eli Manning Big City Presure Award is. Doesnt Eli suck?


I think this is a nice little comparison chart of new QBs (looks much better in link)

Player Team Starts Att/Comp Percent Yards TD/INT
Jason Campbell Washington 7 110/207 53.1 1,297 10/6
Brodie Croyle Kansas City 0 3/7 42.9 23 0/2
Jay Cutler Denver 5 81/137 59.1 1,001 9/5
Tarvaris Jackson Minnesota 2 47/81 58 475 2/4
Matt Leinart Arizona 11 214/371 56.8 2,547 11/12
Matt Schaub Houston 2 84/161 52.2 1,033 6/6
Tony Homo Dallas 10 220/337 65.3 2,903 19/13
Vince Young Tennessee 13 183/357 51.5 2,199 12/13
Brady Quinn Cleveland 0 0 0 0 0/0
Jamarcus Russell Oakland 0 0 0 0 0/0
It just means that he is under the preasure of performing in a big city like NY and has nothing to do with how he has played. This is not any compliment to JC its just saying that he is now under that same preasure as Eli was when he becames a starter in a big city.

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