|
Pages :
1
2
3
4
[ 5]
6
7
8
EARTHQUAKE2689 06-19-2007, 12:05 PM I would absolutely.
I'd put my money on Bulger getting NFL MVP this year assuming my predicition that the Rams run off 11+ wins in the regular season comes true.
McNabb's good (obviously), but his entire career suggests that his first 6 games of last season were a mirage, and that he got injured before his numbers could be pulled back down to earth. I'd expect him to have another good season again this year, but top 3 is borderline ridiculous. But then again, you know what they say about opinions.
I predict the Rams will win 8 at the most.
Whatever. King is just throwing his opinion out there. Some points he makes will actaully be right (Donovan won't be as hot as he was in 2006 again), Others (such as Romo and Young being more productive than McNabb) will be wrong. That's not a big deal.
Speaking of opinions, heres how I would have done it:
1. Peyton Manning
2. Everyone else
With everyone else listed in this order:
2. Marc Bulger
3. Phillip Rivers
4. Matt Leinart
5. Tom Brady
6. Carson Palmer
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Matt Schaub
9. Ben Roethlisberger
10. Drew Brees
11. Donovan McNabb
12. Jason Campbell
13. Byron Leftwich
14. Jay Cutler
15. Vince Young
16. Eli Manning
17. Chad Pennington
18. Steve McNair
19. Jon Kitna
20. Jeff Garcia
21. Trent Green
22. Alex Smith
23. Rex Grossman
24. Tony Romo
25. Jake Delhomme
26. Brett Favre
27. Michael Vick
28. Josh McCown
29. Brodie Croyle
30. Charlie Frye
31. JP Losman
32. Tavaris Jackson
Bulger at #2?
Rivers at #3?
Leinart at #4?
Brees at #10?
Schaub at #8?
I must say one thing, at least you're consistent in your "unique" views around here.
skinsfan69 06-19-2007, 12:44 PM Of course its all speculation but I think the reason someone like JC is ranked so low and Cutler is ranked high is the team they play for. Denver is a proven team that is consistently in the playoff hunt. The Skins are a dysfunctional organization that is currently a perennial loser. I think if JC played for a better team he would be ranked higher.
Look at Denver's offense and look at ours. On paper, we have the better offense. We have better RB's, better WR's and a better TE. I would say we are even at QB and O-line.
skinsfan69 06-19-2007, 12:55 PM Whatever. King is just throwing his opinion out there. Some points he makes will actaully be right (Donovan won't be as hot as he was in 2006 again), Others (such as Romo and Young being more productive than McNabb) will be wrong. That's not a big deal.
Speaking of opinions, heres how I would have done it:
1. Peyton Manning
2. Everyone else
With everyone else listed in this order:
2. Marc Bulger
3. Phillip Rivers
4. Matt Leinart
5. Tom Brady
6. Carson Palmer
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Matt Schaub
9. Ben Roethlisberger
10. Drew Brees
11. Donovan McNabb
12. Jason Campbell
13. Byron Leftwich
14. Jay Cutler
15. Vince Young
16. Eli Manning
17. Chad Pennington
18. Steve McNair
19. Jon Kitna
20. Jeff Garcia
21. Trent Green
22. Alex Smith
23. Rex Grossman
24. Tony Romo
25. Jake Delhomme
26. Brett Favre
27. Michael Vick
28. Josh McCown
29. Brodie Croyle
30. Charlie Frye
31. JP Losman
32. Tavaris Jackson
No way Rivers and Leinart are ranked higher than McNabb, Palmer, Brees and Brady. I mean you are talking about 4 of the best qb's in football vs two guys who have only started one year. Hell, Leinart hasn't even started 16 games. From what I hear, Leinart is having problems with the new offense. Don't be surprised if you see Kurt Warner at some point this year.
Also how in the world do you have Schaub ahead of McNabb and Brees? That's nuts! McNabb and Brees are MVP type of players. Brees could have easily won the MVP last year.
GTripp0012 06-19-2007, 01:46 PM No way Rivers and Leinart are ranked higher than McNabb, Palmer, Brees and Brady. I mean you are talking about 4 of the best qb's in football vs two guys who have only started one year. Hell, Leinart hasn't even started 16 games. From what I hear, Leinart is having problems with the new offense. Don't be surprised if you see Kurt Warner at some point this year.
Also how in the world do you have Schaub ahead of McNabb and Brees? That's nuts! McNabb and Brees are MVP type of players. Brees could have easily won the MVP last year.But I'm not talking about last year. I'm projecting this year.
McNabb, Palmer, Brees, and Brady are and will always be successful quarterbacks, but the idea is to pick the guys who are the best in their field for this year. And Rivers, Leinart and Schaub definately fit the criteria.
GTripp0012 06-19-2007, 01:51 PM Bulger at #2?
Rivers at #3?
Leinart at #4?
Brees at #10?
Schaub at #8?
I must say one thing, at least you're consistent in your "unique" views around here.Alright, why don't you make one and we can go back and see who is more right at the end of the year? Just a friendly gentlemen's bet.
BTW, anyone who wants in on this can. It'd be fun to make a competition out of this.
I think people will be quite surprised. (well, either that or I will) Problem is that everyone will use last year as a baseline for their picks. That will give me a big advantage.
GTripp0012 06-19-2007, 01:57 PM Bulger at #2?
Rivers at #3?
Leinart at #4?
Brees at #10?
Schaub at #8?
I must say one thing, at least you're consistent in your "unique" views around here.Does different/unique always mean wrong with you?
Time to see for myself. I want to see the changes you would make to King's list. I'm basically calling you out on this one.
Does different/unique always mean wrong with you?
Time to see for myself. I want to see the changes you would make to King's list. I'm basically calling you out on this one.
I didn't say wrong, just unique.
How are we going to judge this? Will it be based on passer rating?
GTripp0012 06-19-2007, 02:06 PM I didn't say wrong, just unique.
How are we going to judge this? Will it be based on passer rating?You did put it in quotes though...
My beef with passer rating as a stat is well documented, but I think in this case it represents a solid middle ground between the stats that I use, and something completely unhelpful like passing yards or something. I'd be cool with passer rating.
ArtMonkDrillz 06-19-2007, 02:13 PM This is pretty damn funny. It's from the blog FireJoeMorgan.com (http://www.firejoemorgan.com/search/label/intangibles)
King's new column contains the ranking of 32 NFL QBs. What formula does he use to measure these QBs, you might ask?
As for how I arrived at my picks, other than with a divining rod, I used a few measuring sticks. I value wins from my quarterback, which helped Manning and Brady, the leaders in victories over the last two years.
Fair.
I value postseason success; their seven combined wins over the past two years is significant.
Sure. I mean, it's more significant than wins by a pitcher.
Completion percentage and yards-per-attempt are the two passing stats I value the most because they tell you how often a quarterback succeeds in efficiently moving the chains through the air.
This seems good. I might toss in that weird QB Rating thing even though it is impenetrably dense and weird, but COMP% and YPA seems decent. What else?
Finally, intangibles.
Intangibles. You made a statistic...out of intangibles. You turned "intangibles" into a tangible.
Brady led all passers with a 10 on a 10-point scale, because he's a coach, an offseason facilitator, a free-agent recruiter -- and he does it while retaining respect from the guys he often has to lean on hard.
And that is worth: 10 intangi-points.
The stuff in bold print is actually from PK himself. You can read the whole thing on that link I posted at the top.
|