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jsarno 06-11-2007, 09:09 PM and really improved as the season progressed.
In his last 4 games, he threw only 2 td's and had 3 int's, and averaged only 178 yards passing. He was 3-1 in that span, but two of the wins were vs poor teams in the Texans and the Bills. I don't see that as improving.
Now, on the flip side...In jones-drew's last 4 games he rushed for 441 yards and a whopping 6.21 ypc, he also had 6 td's over that span. He had 119 yards receiving...so that is 560 total yards in 4 games, which averages to 140 yards per game.
So by using the "he really improved as the season progressed" logic, Jones-Drew gets the nod again.
jsarno 06-11-2007, 09:11 PM The one time he wasn't fun to watch was when he came to DC, and took there first win from us at our house!
Other than that I think your wrong. Movin On!
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if it is off base. (jk) ;)
jsarno 06-11-2007, 09:13 PM Did anyone else think this thread was about Roy Williams smoking marijuana?
haha LOL!
steveo395 06-11-2007, 09:13 PM Did anyone else think this thread was about Roy Williams smoking marijuana?
Yea I did
That Guy 06-11-2007, 10:23 PM I loved watching Jones-Drew last year. Someone here, shoot maybe it was Daseal, predicted he'd have a big rookie season. I took note and damn if he wasn't right.
But anyhow, is the intent of this thread for you to remind everyone you think Vince Young is overrated?
yeah, that was me ;) if we had needed a running back then, we would have been able to get him too. he showed a lot of heart through the combine and his highlight reel.
GTripp0012 06-11-2007, 11:13 PM OK, I still firmly beleive the NFL got the rookie of the year wrong in 06. Maurice Jones-Drew should have won!
While Jones-Drew was only 12th in the AFC in Rushing (24th in the NFL) he ranked #1 in all the NFL (with qualified attempts) with a 5.7 ypc.
He also ranked tied for 3rd in total td's with 16. Only Tomlinson (all world 31 total td's) and Johnson (19 total td's) had more. And those two are amazing...1 was the MVP.
On the other foot, Young, was a horrible QB rating wise. Only Gradkowski (TB) and Walter (OAK) had worse rating for all those that reached qualifying attempts.
For all QB's with 10 or more attempts, Young ranked 50th out of 61 QB's in terms of rating.
Young was 1 of only 9 QB's to throw more Int's than TD's (qualified qb's).
In terms of comp %, Young THE WORST in all the NFL for those who qualified.
Only Tuiasosopo (46.2% on 13 attempts), Collins (46.7% on 90 attempts) and Rogers (40% on 15 attempts) we worse than Young for any qb that threw more than 10 attemtps. (that's 61 qb's...so Young was 58th out of 61...that's pathetic.)
Jones drew had a combined 1377 yards (941 rushing and 436 receiving). He also ranked 3rd in the all the NFL in Kickoff returns with a 27.7 average.
How did everyone overlook the obvious horrendous stats that Young put up and missed a true gem in Jones-Drew?Jsarno, you've hit the nail on the head.
Thinking Vince Young is an exciting player with awesome potential is totally accurate. I'd love to engage anyone in a debate that thought he had a better year than Maurice Jones-Drew though. I mean, it wasn't even close.
GTripp0012 06-11-2007, 11:17 PM Young obviously did not get it for his stats. He got it for his game changing abilities and the way he sparked his team and helped them to a much better finish than anyone expected.My beef is that the ROY selectors should take their job more seriously. I mean, they are supposed to use judgement skills to sort through the hype and give the award to the best rookie. Instead, they appeared to have done no research or given any thought to it whatsoever.
I don't see any reason why they shouldn't let someone like Jsarno onto their committee. He's quite clearly more qualified to think than they are.
These post season awards are crazy jokes.
GusFrerotte 06-11-2007, 11:51 PM Didn't know what to expect to be honest, just came in to see what it was about. I am more worried about Rogers supposedly sexually assaulting that stripper. I wish these guys would cut this garbage out. Why would a millionaire need to go to a strip joint? All of those Oakland CO hotties throw themselves at Detroit sports stars. They can get anything for free!!!! Only decent looking gals in MI are in Oakland and Livingston Co, at least good looking ones with college degrees. Wayne Co really sucks in that regards. I want to move back to the DC area soon!!!!!!!
GTripp0012 06-12-2007, 12:02 AM Didn't know what to expect to be honest, just came in to see what it was about. I am more worried about Rogers supposedly sexually assaulting that stripper. I wish these guys would cut this garbage out. Why would a millionaire need to go to a strip joint? All of those Oakland CO hotties throw themselves at Detroit sports stars. They can get anything for free!!!! Only decent looking gals in MI are in Oakland and Livingston Co, at least good looking ones with college degrees. Wayne Co really sucks in that regards. I want to move back to the DC area soon!!!!!!!GusFrerotte, where in Oakland County do you live?
(I'm actually in Oakland County right now as I ask this)
jsarno 06-12-2007, 12:14 AM Does anyone else there think that Jones-Drew is the next Barry Sanders like me?
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