Belichick...Best of All Time????

In no particular order:

Lombardi
Shula
Landry
Gibbs
Noll
Actually, I will give you Shula and Walsh being a tie...(I am senile in my old age and forgot about him)....
We are not far off... I have Gibbs as 6 (I would have had him in top 5 before he came back)

In no particular order:

Lombardi
Shula
Landry
Gibbs
Noll

You don't consider Bill Walsh one of the top five?

In no particular order:

Lombardi
Shula
Landry
Gibbs
Noll

I think Redskin Rich has the more realistic top 5. I just dont see how Shula could be ahead of Walsh.

I also think that while Lombardi was great he was coaching what IMO is a completely different game. I think one needs 2 lists, pre & post 1970.

But if you're going to knock Belichik down a peg for his horrible stint with the Browns, then don't you have to knock Gibbs down a peg for his 21-27 record with the 'Skins in his recent tenure? I can't do that though, you accomplished what you accomplished, a sub-par stint in another time or place doesn't change that.

1) Lombardi
2) Schula
3) Gibbs
4) Landry
5) Noll
6) Walsh
7) Belichik
8) Parcells
9) Brown
10) Rich Kotite

But if you're going to knock Belichik down a peg for his horrible stint with the Browns, then don't you have to knock Gibbs down a peg for his 21-27 record with the 'Skins in his recent tenure?

1) Lombardi
2) Schula
3) Gibbs
4) Landry
5) Noll
6) Walsh
7) Belichik
8) Parcells
9) Brown
10) Rich Kotite
:lol:!!!!!!!

It's tough to say because of the different era's. But you could argue that he is one of the best 5 all time. It's not like he doesn't belong in the conversation.

Could Vince L. coach in today's era? I would say not. Those old timers could not hack it in today's football. They couldn't handle the players of today. But he was the best of his era.

But no question BB is the best right now. His teams are so well prepeared for any situation.

You don't consider Bill Walsh one of the top five?

Tough call, who do you take out?

He's right there though.

I think Walsh was a better coach than Shula and Knoll. Walsh was a true inovator of NFL offense. How many teams in the NFL use the West Coast system, or some type of version of it. One of the best tactitions sp? of all time.

Could Vince L. coach in today's era? I would say not. Those old timers could not hack it in today's football. They couldn't handle the players of today. But he was the best of his era.

One of the attributes of a great coach is to adapt and win, no matter the situation. If the all-time great coaches were coaching today, they would adapt to the players of today....or more likely make the players of today adapt to them. Players who win multiple championships understand they must put team before self in order to win. Generally these types of players do not have many off-field issues or demand unreasonable contracts. Great coaches attract and pursue these types of players, hence they win.

NO he is not. ESPN are known New England/ Boston homers.... for the most part except for you Smoot.