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jsarno 06-27-2007, 08:19 PM Politics are corupt and have been since the beginnigng. No matter who you put into a government office they always will be. Nobody truly knows why we went to war. All anyone can conjure up is their own theory, but not one person can provide substantial proof. You never go to war for one reason, there are a multitude. It wasn't one man that made the decision, it was several. Everybody is just pissed off because we are still there. Well guess what folks? You cannot go into any country on a large scale operation and destroy the whole country without helping to rebuild it. Even after the Civil War the south had to be reconstructed, but the job wasnt ever fully accomplished for nearly a century. However it is expected that we rebuild somebody elses country in a couple of years.
Very good points angry.
Also noteworthy is to say, if clinton took care of the issues during his presidency, then the towers would still be up, and we wouldn't be in this mess. But that's what happens when your head is in the sand (or a female section)
Put aside why we went to Iraq and realize that what we did was already done. Whether or not the reason we did it was justified or not. It is not right to just back out now and leave the country in ruin. Our doing has to be undone. Anything else would be inhumane.
100% agreed.
70Chip 06-27-2007, 08:56 PM As a fairly rich man, I can tell you that I have many tax breaks you can only dream about, enjoy the protection of the judicial system you could only enjoy by moving to a country like Sweden, and work only a couple of hours a day.
If you don't like the Bush taxcuts, have your accountant figure up what you would have owed under the old tax regime and send the government a check. Better yet, figure out what you would have owed before JFK cut taxes, when the top rate was 90%. As a fairly poor man I sure would appreciate it and you will sleep better at night and have one less thing to complain about.
dmek25 06-27-2007, 09:01 PM Very good points angry.
Also noteworthy is to say, if clinton took care of the issues during his presidency, then the towers would still be up, and we wouldn't be in this mess. But that's what happens when your head is in the sand (or a female section)
100% agreed.
oh, how easy it is to deflect the blame. is that also like saying if senior Bush would have finished what he started in Iraq, 3000 American soldiers would still be alive? and correct me if im wrong, but during Bill Clintons tenure, the republicans controlled congress. they could have done pretty much what they wanted. how is that , tit for tat?
dmek25 06-27-2007, 09:05 PM If you don't like the Bush taxcuts, have your accountant figure up what you would have owed under the old tax regime and send the government a check. Better yet, figure out what you would have owed before JFK cut taxes, when the top rate was 90%. As a fairly poor man I sure would appreciate it and you will sleep better at night and have one less thing to complain about.
ill tell you what. if its that easy, ill send my tax cut money back, if bush brings the troops home. i cant understand why he cant hear the american people calling for the end. he is supposed to be the voice of his people, right?
jsarno 06-27-2007, 09:17 PM oh, how easy it is to deflect the blame. is that also like saying if senior Bush would have finished what he started in Iraq, 3000 American soldiers would still be alive? and correct me if im wrong, but during Bill Clintons tenure, the republicans controlled congress. they could have done pretty much what they wanted. how is that , tit for tat?
SO sn. Bush was wrong for backing out, yet GW gets blasted for not backing out?????? Do dems even have a clue what they really want?
(I'm not deflecting the blame, I say Clinton sucked, and Bush had to clean up the mess...that's not deflection, that's Bush stepping up to the plate.)
jsarno 06-27-2007, 09:18 PM ill tell you what. if its that easy, ill send my tax cut money back, if bush brings the troops home. i cant understand why he cant hear the american people calling for the end. he is supposed to be the voice of his people, right?
The people are wrong. You don't back out now.
70Chip 06-27-2007, 09:34 PM ill tell you what. if its that easy, ill send my tax cut money back, if bush brings the troops home. i cant understand why he cant hear the american people calling for the end. he is supposed to be the voice of his people, right?
What could be easier? Do you think the IRS will return your money? They don't care if you overpay.
This thread reminds me of:
http://www.motleycrow.com/ImageHost/Thread-Sucks-ComeFor-Bush.jpg
dmek25 06-27-2007, 11:05 PM The people are wrong. You don't back out now.
so, you're right, and 80% of America is wrong?
dmek25 06-27-2007, 11:11 PM SO sn. Bush was wrong for backing out, yet GW gets blasted for not backing out?????? Do dems even have a clue what they really want?
(I'm not deflecting the blame, I say Clinton sucked, and Bush had to clean up the mess...that's not deflection, that's Bush stepping up to the plate.)
taking us into Iraq, when the united states had no business being there. whose mess is he cleaning up? maybe his old mans. for some strange reason, this president really doesn't understand the meaning of politics. so now we have a mess in Iran. oh, what to do? who can we blame this on? i sure for some stupid reason, that this, and any other problem, is Bill Clinton's fault. because he surely is the root of all evil. and the republicans still haven't been able to accept the fact that even they are wrong every once in a while
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