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skinsguy
04-09-2015, 08:46 AM
Yeah, I agree. It's turned into an easy way that we old fogey's can keep up with our long lost friends or geographically distant family. It's a way for me to share pics of my kids with friends and family across the US, and for most them to do the same. I suspect that facebook is now an established entity (like ebay or amazon) and will remain strong. In fact, I suspect that some the kids who have abandoned facebook for now may "come back home" to it as their friends start moving away or share information with multi-generational friends and family. In many ways it has established itself as the world's personal weblog.

On the other hand, for the more "I am here" "I am doing cool stuff" "LOOK AT ME!!" narcissistic needs of teens and 20's, snap chat and instagram are the mediums.

Another up and coming one is "Yik Yak" which is becoming popular on colleges. It is essentially twitter and instagram (I think) but is only accessible by people in a specific geographic area - like a college campus and its immediate surrounds. Thus, for the most part, parents aren't included AND all your friends are. Not sure of all of its workings 'cause, well, I am a fogey and my friendships are no longer essentially based on geography.

Facebook and Yik Yak have very similar beginnings. Facebook was a college only application in its infancy, and eventually opened up to everyone a few years later. I joined it when it was still a college network only medium - hardly ever used it in the beginning (because MySpace was still more popular.) I remember when there was a character limit on your posts - kind of wished they still had that sometimes (because I get so tired of people's political rants on there!)

Anyways, it is usually out of the norm to see the younger generation come back to these apps. They tend to jump from one app to the next, and never really come full circle. It's kind of similar with popular music. You don't ever see the music you liked when you were in your teens or early 20's come back and be as popular as it was back then. For the younger people, it's about getting away from the parents and having their own separate things. A lot of them don't usually want to spend more time with the parents until they start having a family of their own. They then start to realize their parents were a lot cooler than what the kids gave them credit for! But I digress...

Facebook has its hands in so many different cookie jars, that they have secured their popularity and profitability for at least a few years longer. But they did this by changing how Facebook does things. You can use so many other apps that tie into Facebook, that you don't even have to use Facebook directly. I believe that three or four years down the road, Facebook will not resemble, at all, what it looks like now. It won't go away, but it won't be the best social medium for things like posting pictures or keeping up with friends.

Heck, what i tend to see more on the Facebook wall is what people have liked. That tends to be mostly click-bait news stories or videos. It's almost like spam! You see more and more stuff like this, and less and less actual posts from your Facebook friends. That, in my opinion, is what will eventually kill Facebook.

Schneed10
04-09-2015, 09:13 AM
No offense guys but this is a really stupid discussion. (no offense he says and then lobs a blatant insult)

1) It's just wrong to say Facebook isn't growing. Not growing in the United States? Maybe. Not growing internationally? Not even close. There are huge markets out there that Facebook hasn't pervaded yet.

2) Petulant teenagers who want to steer clear of their parents and everything they do eventually grow into adults who realize mom and dad weren't so crazy after all. Think about it, as an adult now, are you happy to be connected on Facebook to your parents, aunts and uncles? These other social media applications you mention don't offer the same medium for interacting. The narcissism of sharing pictures eventually gives way to a more adult desire to just stay in touch.

3) Facebook has merely scratched the surface with its revenue-generation model. Soon it will be minting money like only Google and Apple. Especially as it moves into more emerging markets. It's not going anywhere anytime (soon, or ever) because it's so F'ing profitable.

I feel like this discussion is about what the kids think is cool these days, rather than the realities of business. Can we bring the thinking up a level?

Schneed10
04-09-2015, 09:16 AM
Multiple choice question. If you're a business, who do you target IN ORDER TO MAKE MONEY:

1) 13-24 year olds
2) 25-64 year olds
3) 65+

Jesus Christ.

mredskins
04-09-2015, 09:39 AM
No offense guys but this is a really stupid discussion. (no offense he says and then lobs a blatant insult)

1) It's just wrong to say Facebook isn't growing. Not growing in the United States? Maybe. Not growing internationally? Not even close. There are huge markets out there that Facebook hasn't pervaded yet.

2) Petulant teenagers who want to steer clear of their parents and everything they do eventually grow into adults who realize mom and dad weren't so crazy after all. Think about it, as an adult now, are you happy to be connected on Facebook to your parents, aunts and uncles? These other social media applications you mention don't offer the same medium for interacting. The narcissism of sharing pictures eventually gives way to a more adult desire to just stay in touch.

3) Facebook has merely scratched the surface with its revenue-generation model. Soon it will be minting money like only Google and Apple. Especially as it moves into more emerging markets. It's not going anywhere anytime (soon, or ever) because it's so F'ing profitable.

I feel like this discussion is about what the kids think is cool these days, rather than the realities of business. Can we bring the thinking up a level?

Not everyone has a business mind set they are simply talking it out on a Redskin's web site. I agree with what you said but making others feel small about their "thinking" level is not cool.

You must be a barrel of monkeys at neighborhood BBQ's. We have one like you in our hood we call him 1UP or Mushroom (after the ones in Super Mario you get for a extra guy).

Your a mental giant we got it. Bravo.

Schneed10
04-09-2015, 09:41 AM
Not everyone has a business mind set they are simply talking it out on a Redskin's web site. I agree with what you said but making others feel small about their "thinking" level is not cool.

You must be a barrel of monkeys at neighborhood BBQ's. We have one like you in our hood we call him 1UP or Mushroom (after the ones in Super Mario you get for a extra guy).

Your a mental giant we got it. Bravo.

*You're

Schneed10
04-09-2015, 09:43 AM
lol I couldn't resist that, sorry.

I wasn't meaning to put anybody down for its own sake, just strongly point out the flaw in the thinking. I don't think it makes any sense to say that teens set the direction for the future of social media because they want to be separate from their parents.

JoeRedskin
04-09-2015, 09:46 AM
Not everyone has a business mind set they are simply talking it out on a Redskin's web site. I agree with what you said but making others feel small about their "thinking" level is not cool.

You must be a barrel of monkeys at neighborhood BBQ's. We have one like you in our hood we call him 1UP or Mushroom (after the ones in Super Mario you get for a extra guy).

Your a mental giant we got it. Bravo.

Naw. He's just Schneed being Schneed.

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skinsguy
04-09-2015, 12:19 PM
No offense guys but this is a really stupid discussion. (no offense he says and then lobs a blatant insult)rather than the realities of business. Can we bring the thinking up a level?

Yet you joined right in. I guess that makes you just as stupid.

1) It's just wrong to say Facebook isn't growing. Not growing in the United States? Maybe. Not growing internationally? Not even close. There are huge markets out there that Facebook hasn't pervaded yet.

Like which ones?

2) Petulant teenagers who want to steer clear of their parents and everything they do eventually grow into adults who realize mom and dad weren't so crazy after all. Think about it, as an adult now, are you happy to be connected on Facebook to your parents, aunts and uncles? These other social media applications you mention don't offer the same medium for interacting. The narcissism of sharing pictures eventually gives way to a more adult desire to just stay in touch.

Why would they need to share the same medium for interacting?

3) Facebook has merely scratched the surface with its revenue-generation model. Soon it will be minting money like only Google and Apple. Especially as it moves into more emerging markets. It's not going anywhere anytime (soon, or ever) because it's so F'ing profitable.

Thanks Captain Obvious! I do believe I DID say Facebook is profitable and WILL continue to be profitable so as long as it continues to change and evolve. It will NOT remain profitable if it stays in its current form, because eventually, as it always happens in the IT world, something else comes along that is better than the current best, and then ten years down the road, we make fun of guys like you who were beating their chest and proclaiming that Facebook will stick around forever.

I feel like this discussion is about what the kids think is cool these days, rather than the realities of business. Can we bring the thinking up a level?

Yet again, you chose to be apart of the discussion. So logic would say you either stop complaining or you don't partake in the discussion. Seems pretty straightforward with me, unless you're just trying to troll.

Schneed10
04-09-2015, 01:42 PM
Yet you joined right in. I guess that makes you just as stupid.

I guess if you consider 'joining in' to be riding in on my high horse and unloading a verbal beating in your direction for talking gibberish. What I'm not partaking in is being stupid.


Like which ones?

Particularly Asia and South America where they have a presence but are still growing significantly, and just beginning to use targeted ad strategies, including local offices to help gear advertising to fit these cultures.


Why would they need to share the same medium for interacting?

Because once people reach adulthood the barriers between parent and teen break down, and people are happy to connect with folks of all ages. You seem to be stuck on this notion that people only want to interact with people of their own age group. It's just false.

Thanks Captain Obvious! I do believe I DID say Facebook is profitable and WILL continue to be profitable so as long as it continues to change and evolve. It will NOT remain profitable if it stays in its current form, because eventually, as it always happens in the IT world, something else comes along that is better than the current best, and then ten years down the road, we make fun of guys like you who were beating their chest and proclaiming that Facebook will stick around forever.

What about Facebook makes you think they won't change and evolve? What good is saying they'll be unprofitable if they don't change. It's like you think it's actually possible that Facebook will stay in its current form. Of course it will evolve, this is the very definition of an inane discussion.

Yet again, you chose to be apart of the discussion. So logic would say you either stop complaining or you don't partake in the discussion. Seems pretty straightforward with me, unless you're just trying to troll.

I'm not partaking in the same exchange of drivel, I'm redirecting to a higher plane of thought. Finding it particularly difficult to steer you in the right direction though.

mredskins
04-09-2015, 02:18 PM
I guess if you consider 'joining in' to be riding in on my high horse and unloading a verbal beating in your direction for talking gibberish. What I'm not partaking in is being stupid.




Particularly Asia and South America where they have a presence but are still growing significantly, and just beginning to use targeted ad strategies, including local offices to help gear advertising to fit these cultures.




Because once people reach adulthood the barriers between parent and teen break down, and people are happy to connect with folks of all ages. You seem to be stuck on this notion that people only want to interact with people of their own age group. It's just false.



What about Facebook makes you think they won't change and evolve? What good is saying they'll be unprofitable if they don't change. It's like you think it's actually possible that Facebook will stay in its current form. Of course it will evolve, this is the very definition of an inane discussion.



I'm not partaking in the same exchange of drivel, I'm redirecting to a higher plane of thought. Finding it particularly difficult to steer you in the right direction though.

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