Keyshawn Johnson released from Carolina.

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Beemnseven
05-02-2007, 03:34 PM
For what logical reason would you think height is "overrated" for a WR?

I think the precedent was established with the Rams in 1999. Holt, Bruce, and Hakim were all under 6 feet tall, yet they were virtually unstoppable. At that point, many offensive philosophies shifted from big, lanky wideouts like Rice, Irvin, Chris Carter and Jake Reed to smaller, shiftier guys with the emphasis on speed.

Also, the NFL today is more about timing and a receiver’s ability to avoid tackles after the catch. You don’t see too many jump balls lobbed up in the hopes that the tallest man wins.

Bottom line is, teams are recognizing that having a 6'2, 6'3, or 6'4 receiver is a nice bonus, but not a necessity.

skinsfan_nn
05-02-2007, 03:49 PM
I think the precedent was established with the Rams in 1999. Holt, Bruce, and Hakim were all under 6 feet tall, yet they were virtually unstoppable. At that point, many offensive philosophies shifted from big, lanky wideouts like Rice, Irvin, Chris Carter and Jake Reed to smaller, shiftier guys with the emphasis on speed.

Also, the NFL today is more about timing and a receiver’s ability to avoid tackles after the catch. You don’t see too many jump balls lobbed up in the hopes that the tallest man wins.

Bottom line is, teams are recognizing that having a 6'2, 6'3, or 6'4 receiver is a nice bonus, but not a necessity.

I agree it's a nice bonus. Santana is living proof you don't have to be 6'5"

MTK
05-02-2007, 04:03 PM
Look no further than someone like Steve Smith for the WR height is overrated take.

TenandSix:Unacceptable
05-02-2007, 06:24 PM
I think the precedent was established with the Rams in 1999. Holt, Bruce, and Hakim were all under 6 feet tall, yet they were virtually unstoppable. At that point, many offensive philosophies shifted from big, lanky wideouts like Rice, Irvin, Chris Carter and Jake Reed to smaller, shiftier guys with the emphasis on speed.

Also, the NFL today is more about timing and a receiver’s ability to avoid tackles after the catch. You don’t see too many jump balls lobbed up in the hopes that the tallest man wins.

Bottom line is, teams are recognizing that having a 6'2, 6'3, or 6'4 receiver is a nice bonus, but not a necessity.

Now this is from memory but I don't think Rice Carter and Reed were very tall. Sorry no commas on this keyboard.

itvnetop
05-02-2007, 07:25 PM
Regardless of what you think of Key's personality, you can't deny his ability to go over the middle and take the big hits- time after time, he'd move the chains. Alot of players with similar egos never block like KJ, either. For a guy who does a lot of talking, he goes 100 percent on the field and does the dirty work.

skinsfan_nn
05-02-2007, 07:34 PM
Regardless of what you think of Key's personality, you can't deny his ability to go over the middle and take the big hits- time after time, he'd move the chains. Alot of players with similar egos never block like KJ, either. For a guy who does a lot of talking, he goes 100 percent on the field and does the dirty work.

His stats from last year don't lie, reguardless of what he does or does not do off the field.

He can damn sure play on Sunday!

skinsfan_nn
05-02-2007, 08:33 PM
KJ could end up with the G-girls:
Big Blue could grab Keyshawn - Giants - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2007/05/02/2007-05-02_big_blue_could_grab_keyshawn.html)

RobH4413
05-02-2007, 09:08 PM
Question:

This season: Who would be the better receiver production wise on our team. Brandon Lloyd or KJ?

I'd have to say this season only, I'd rather have KJ. The fact is... Lloyd is young, and he's probably got much brighter future, but this season I would rather have a KJ. There both head cases, but only one of them has done anything on the field.

I don't think I'm insane to suggest that... but i'll probably be called so.

I'm not saying we go get him, because I'm having confidence in Gibbs ability in controlling Lloyd and developing him into a productive receiver.

I do not want both of them on the team either.

So in essence, leave him alone.

(forgive me if this was already discussed)

skinsfan_nn
05-02-2007, 09:18 PM
Question:

This season: Who would be the better receiver production wise on our team. Brandon Lloyd or KJ?

I'd have to say this season only, I'd rather have KJ. The fact is... Lloyd is young, and he's probably got much brighter future, but this season I would rather have a KJ. There both head cases, but only one of them has done anything on the field.

I don't think I'm insane to suggest that... but i'll probably be called so.

I'm not saying we go get him, because I'm having confidence in Gibbs ability in controlling Lloyd and developing him into a productive receiver.

I do not want both of them on the team either.

So in essence, leave him alone.

(forgive me if this was already discussed)

First of all, not sure if this was discussed or not?
IMO I would take KJ over Lloyd any day of the week. I would go one more step and say being we are, at least money wise stuck with Lloyd this season it APPEARS?
If he doesn't turn it around this year I would think he's gonna be gone anyway. There seemed to be a question early on, whether him or arch would go? I wish we would have been smarter with the contract's so we could have dumped both.

Beemnseven
05-02-2007, 10:31 PM
Now this is from memory but I don't think Rice Carter and Reed were very tall. Sorry no commas on this keyboard.

According to profootballreference.com, Carter and Reed are both 6'3, and Rice is 6'2.

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