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Oakland Red 05-01-2007, 05:25 PM Charley Casserly gives a sober and insightful look at the draft choices each team made, and ridicules the idea of draft grades the day after the draft. Also, he mades an interesting study of the success of draft choices by round over a ten year period...
National Football League - CBS SportsLine.com (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10159081)
EARTHQUAKE2689 05-03-2007, 12:43 AM we were the consensious worst draft overall.lol
screw that with the picks we had i would give us a b-
KLHJ2 05-03-2007, 12:51 AM I need to borrow whatever crystal ball it is that those Analysts use to decide who had the best draft before anyone ever stepped on the field. I like the stock market and it would come in handy.
Oh mighty powerfull analyst, will I ever be rich? The sad thing is that people actually pay these guys.
EARTHQUAKE2689 05-03-2007, 12:58 AM I need to borrow whatever crystal ball it is that those Analysts use to decide who had the best draft before anyone ever stepped on the field. I like the stock market and it would come in handy.
Oh mighty powerfull analyst, will I ever be rich? The sad thing is that people actually pay these guys.
screw the so called analysts
KLHJ2 05-03-2007, 01:00 AM screw the so called analysts
With a construction workers electric jackhammer and no lube!
ncskinsfanec 05-03-2007, 01:29 AM In case anyone is interested......
ESPN.com: SPORTSNATION - Consensus NFL Draft Grades (http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/story?id=2854030)
Washington Redskins have the lowest rated draft.
I bet 95% of the people who voted in this thing know very little about football anyway, so it is very worthless and inconsequential to even take it the least bit seriously. Those people who grade drafts (like Mr. Perm Kiper, who probably could discuss hair care with John Edwards) are usually pretty worthless as well. Only time will tell who did well and who didn't.
offiss 05-03-2007, 05:30 AM The grade that was given to us was a result of not having draft picks, they could have given us that grade before we ever made a selection, the fact is they say we had the worst draft, and yet we did draft the best defensive player in the draft according to most of these same experts. Funny I wonder what they were expecting from the 5th rd on? Blades? I can't complain about that pick, saw some highlights, the kid is a player. Not expecting much from the rest, but considering what we had to work with I will take those 2 and be happy, although we should have drafted Crosby.
You would be hard pressed to find some one more criticle than I when it comes to personel moves by us, but I was impressed with the fact they were able to resist the temptation to draft DL when none of these guys will be as good at thier positions as Landry will be at his. And yes he does fill a huge need, there is a reason AA was ripped constantly by most of us here last season, it wasen't because he wasen't playing a position of significance, we found out how significant a safety is especially in williams defense.
Right now I am more concerned with who will play left guard than the play of a healthy D-line. Williams has what he needs on defense now he can bring pressure from other areas so long as we can now cover in the secondary.
The grade that was given to us was a result of not having draft picks, they could have given us that grade before we ever made a selection, the fact is they say we had the worst draft, and yet we did draft the best defensive player in the draft according to most of these same experts. Funny I wonder what they were expecting from the 5th rd on? Blades? I can't complain about that pick, saw some highlights, the kid is a player. Not expecting much from the rest, but considering what we had to work with I will take those 2 and be happy, although we should have drafted Crosby.
You would be hard pressed to find some one more criticle than I when it comes to personel moves by us, but I was impressed with the fact they were able to resist the temptation to draft DL when none of these guys will be as good at thier positions as Landry will be at his. And yes he does fill a huge need, there is a reason AA was ripped constantly by most of us here last season, it wasen't because he wasen't playing a position of significance, we found out how significant a safety is especially in williams defense.
Right now I am more concerned with who will play left guard than the play of a healthy D-line. Williams has what he needs on defense now he can bring pressure from other areas so long as we can now cover in the secondary.
I am shocked and awed, that.....this .....day, has come. I agree with O's post!
While I do not put much stock in the opinions of the avalanche of media ninny's that load the airwaves with their jackassery of stupidity, note the following. Mel K. Jr is one I consider knowledgeable.
I was listening to the ESPN overnight, last night in Mel K. jr interview about, HOW the Redskins draft could be rated above numerous other teams with a full range of picks?
MK responded that the Skins had a good draft with a GREAT pick of Landry in the first, being the "best D pick" avaliable in the draft. "They also certainly took care of some depth (if not some starting help) in the later rounds with some savvy picks". "Had they had a full compliment of picks, they would have been near the top in my opinion".
Good to hear from MK.
#56fanatic 05-03-2007, 09:47 AM draft grades and what those "experts" say doesn't mean squat. I thought we needed some D line help, but hey we got the best defensive player coming out of college. You have to pick him at 6. if not trade out and that wasn't happening. DT or DE, to me, just isn't worth the 6th pick, especially the talent coming out, it just wasn't worth it. of course Joe and Co. will always put a spin on things, but he attributed some of the D line struggles to the secondary. only rushing 3 sometimes 2 trying to put more people in coverage. Daniels and Wynn both said basically the same thing. makes sense, if you secondary and lock down the receivers, that allows the D line and LB's to be more aggressive.
interesting point. Our D line was not that impressive in 2005, not a ton better than last year - however it was not a big issue because of the winning streak and the playoff birth. amazing how winning sort of hides some areas of concern.
draft grades and what those "experts" say doesn't mean squat. I thought we needed some D line help, but hey we got the best defensive player coming out of college. You have to pick him at 6. if not trade out and that wasn't happening. DT or DE, to me, just isn't worth the 6th pick, especially the talent coming out, it just wasn't worth it. of course Joe and Co. will always put a spin on things, but he attributed some of the D line struggles to the secondary. only rushing 3 sometimes 2 trying to put more people in coverage. Daniels and Wynn both said basically the same thing. makes sense, if you secondary and lock down the receivers, that allows the D line and LB's to be more aggressive.
interesting point. Our D line was not that impressive in 2005, not a ton better than last year - however it was not a big issue because of the winning streak and the playoff birth. amazing how winning sort of hides some areas of concern.
I read much of the same stuff. I must say, it adds a different slant to the picture. I see the logic in what has been said about reinforcing the secondary, especially with the apparent lack of good "trade down" oppurtunities for a D-lineman. it will be interesting to see................I hope
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