Wynn restructures

More succinct that I had put it. :biggthump

I like Wynn.

I like to win.

I like Wynn to win.

If Wynn wins, the Skins win.

So we need Wynn to have the will to win.

As long as Wynn has the will to win, then Skins will win with Wynn, and when the Skins win with Wynn, then we win with Wynn.

So when Wynn has the will to win, Wynn wins and the Skins will to win, which they got from Wynn, will win for the Skins - then we will all win with Wynn.

And when we win with Wynn ....




Everybody gets laid.

I like Wynn.

I like to win.

I like Wynn to win.

If Wynn wins, the Skins win.

So we need Wynn to have the will to win.

As long as Wynn has the will to win, then Skins will win with Wynn, and when the Skins win with Wynn, then we win with Wynn.

So when Wynn has the will to win, Wynn wins and the Skins will to win, which they got from Wynn, will win for the Skins - then we will all win with Wynn.

And when we win with Wynn ....




Everybody gets laid.

This is why you're hot.

Don't know if I can adequately follow the last couple posts, but I'll try...

Wynn still has to make the team. We may have all kinds of competition for his spot once camp starts.

I want to keep Wynn for continuity's sake, and yes him being a leader is a big part of that. A lot of us on this site have griped about the Skins letting players go & not doing enough to keep our own players. I know Wynn is not a highly sought free agent that would command big $ on the market like Pierce & Smoot, & dock did, but he has been one of the most loyal to the team and can still play the run decently.

What it comes down to is:

Can Wynn be replaced with someone who could do just as good a job for less money?

No one has presented any type of decent argument that he could.

Beem I never saw TMC say Wynn was "dominating". What he said was that for the price we were getting a leader and a guy who does a solid if unspectacular job. You seem to think we can magically find some "young and hungry" players to do the same thing and I would say to you that of all the DL taken in this years draft maybe 15 will ever be better than Wynn is now. Wynn is certainly only average but average is better than 50% of the league. There aren't some magical young players out there to come in and do what they want him to do while also offering the leadership.

I don't think he is off the hook I simply think many value some of his more intangible contributions while I think you are undervaluing his on field contributions.

The fact is, we won’t ever get to find out if someone less expensive could be found to replace Wynn because this team doesn’t see the need to get such a player. It’s my contention that just about any other team with a half-way decent front office could find someone who could give us more production. Now, judging by the record of this organization, I can actually understand how people here would doubt that this franchise could do it. My argument is, that player is out there – – whether Gibbs, Williams, or Cerrato can find him is another matter.

The “leadership” thing is overrated. We saw what Renaldo’s great locker room leadership got us last year. I think that’s more fanspeak. People throw around the “leadership” word without really ever stopping to examine exactly what it means. What counts is production on the field. If Wynn were the type of player that the fans here have spent over 80 posts trying to convince everyone that he really is, then he’d still be starting. I believe this is just another demonstration of blinding loyalty to a player whose mystical, yet bogus contributions in the locker room far exceed any rational observation of his actual abilities on the field.

And it’s exactly that type of mentality that keeps this team in the losing column. Too many people in Redskin Park (and apparently here at the Warpath) favor loyalty and “locker room leadership” over results.

That sort of mindset couldn’t cut it anywhere else.

I've seen alot of posts suggesting that we could pick someone up after June 1st cuts. Does anyone know of any possible prospects that may become available?

The fact is, we won’t ever get to find out if someone less expensive could be found to replace Wynn because this team doesn’t see the need to get such a player. It’s my contention that just about any other team with a half-way decent front office could find someone who could give us more production. Now, judging by the record of this organization, I can actually understand how people here would doubt that this franchise could do it. My argument is, that player is out there – – whether Gibbs, Williams, or Cerrato can find him is another matter.

The “leadership” thing is overrated. We saw what Renaldo’s great locker room leadership got us last year. I think that’s more fanspeak. People throw around the “leadership” word without really ever stopping to examine exactly what it means. What counts is production on the field. If Wynn were the type of player that the fans here have spent over 80 posts trying to convince everyone that he really is, then he’d still be starting. I believe this is just another demonstration of blinding loyalty to a player whose mystical, yet bogus contributions in the locker room far exceed any rational observation of his actual abilities on the field.

And it’s exactly that type of mentality that keeps this team in the losing column. Too many people in Redskin Park (and apparently here at the Warpath) favor loyalty and “locker room leadership” over results.

That sort of mindset couldn’t cut it anywhere else.Good post.

I still think Wynn has some value as a strategic, 15-20 snap guy used on rushing downs. I'm glad he restructured for the good of the team. He deserves the utmost respect from us.

But Beems is right, having guys like Wynn and Daniels around does NOT make it excusable to ignore your defensive line.

We have a plethora of average D Linemen. We need to add a stud to take the next step.

Again, like I think Matty said, it was just a down year for the entire D as a whole last year. But unlike some others have suggested, an ENTIRE team doesn't regress like in from one year to the next. It was key injuries and key losses (as well as "key" additions like AA) that made this defense poor.

We recouped Smoot, have some decent depth at DB and LB AND have a proven player in the middle, leaving Marshall to play back in his spot where he dominated in 2004.TMC, it wasn't just one season. There was a sizable dropoff from 04 to 05 too defensively. Because we got a playoff spot, we approached 2006 optimistically. In hindsight, it makes total sense. We all expected the 2006 defense to be like the 2004, when all the evidence suggested a collapse.

I've seen alot of posts suggesting that we could pick someone up after June 1st cuts. Does anyone know of any possible prospects that may become available?

I've asked this question a couple times, but no one has answered, so I am assuming that no one knows right now. It would be tough to tell at this point anyway due to the fact that none of these rookies for any team have been signed. We'll know more in late May I'm sure.

By the way, I'm calling it now. Watch out for DT Jared Clauss this summer

Noted. :D