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skinsfan69 04-25-2007, 01:48 PM I think this article is twisting his words a bit and trying to make a story out of nothing. I don't see where Gibbs directly says that he doubts a draftee could start.
I think more than anything he's trying to show his support and faith in his current personnel. He's simply saying that competition will be tough for any rookie who comes in, he'll have to earn his spot just like anyone else.
I listened to the press conference on the Redskins web site. And he basically said that it would be real tough for any player in the draft to come in as a rookie and start. I kind of raised my eye brows a bit cause I could think of several players that could walk in and start at DE, SS, and WR. But he did happen to point out that Goldston and Montgomery were basically living in the weight room, and that those two were "way ahead" of where they were last year. So that was real good to hear.
freddyg12 04-25-2007, 01:59 PM JLC pointed out Gibbs saying this in Skins insider today, but its still no news at all. They have to write something & fans like us are anxious for the draft & will read anything.
I agree w/Matty's take on it. I actually like the way Gibbs phrased it, he's basically setting the tone for camp. I've thought for a no. of years that we've lacked solid competition in camp for roster spots & starting jobs. That happens when you sign a lot of free agents, since it is often too costly to cut them. Gibbs will start a rookie, as will GW, they just want them to be as prepared in the scheme as the vets are.
On a side note, Okoye or any d-linemen I'd say has a greater chance of starting early on than Landry. Safety in GW's d seems to require a bit more tutoring.
jsarno 04-25-2007, 02:10 PM Again, I don't see where he's saying specifically, I doubt a rookie can come in and start. More than anything he's saying he feels good in the team as is. He's saying they have a lot of options, and whoever comes in will have to earn his spot.
I guess you can take it either way, but I just think the negative slant this writer is trying to give doesn't make much sense.
Well, you have to look at it from their prospective. When someone is up, kick em til they are down...and when someone is down, kick em to keep em down. Negativity sells.
skinsfan69 04-25-2007, 02:30 PM JLC pointed out Gibbs saying this in Skins insider today, but its still no news at all. They have to write something & fans like us are anxious for the draft & will read anything.
I agree w/Matty's take on it. I actually like the way Gibbs phrased it, he's basically setting the tone for camp. I've thought for a no. of years that we've lacked solid competition in camp for roster spots & starting jobs. That happens when you sign a lot of free agents, since it is often too costly to cut them. Gibbs will start a rookie, as will GW, they just want them to be as prepared in the scheme as the vets are.
On a side note, Okoye or any d-linemen I'd say has a greater chance of starting early on than Landry. Safety in GW's d seems to require a bit more tutoring.
So you think Okoye, who is 19 or 20, could walk right in and start over Goldston and Montgomery who have been here in the program for a year? I don't think so. He's going to need a year or two before we becomes a starter. I think someone like Carriker could start right away over Daniels.
GTripp0012 04-25-2007, 02:38 PM So you think Okoye, who is 19 or 20, could walk right in and start over Goldston and Montgomery who have been here in the program for a year? I don't think so. He's going to need a year or two before we becomes a starter. I think someone like Carriker could start right away over Daniels.Age aside, and yes that counts for something, they've both been well versed in the college ranks. I think they would be equally ready as rookies, but we'd be best off playing the best guy we have for the job, and the smart money says thats not the rookie, no matter how talented he is. Daniels is still servicable at the very least.
dmek25 04-25-2007, 02:56 PM to me it seems like coach Gibbs would be awesome to work for. never publicly bad mouthing anyone, and always saying the right things. this article is a non issue
offiss 04-25-2007, 03:10 PM No way Gibbs could have said anything of the sort! LOL! The GIG team is hard at work with damage control again.
How on earth can anyone say a rookie DL couldn't start over basically nobody? How could someone make an argument to draft one of these DL as most here have been doing for the last 3 months, and then say the guy is to stupid to start his first year? We are talking DL here not QB, not center, and not MLB, these are positions of athletic ablity and power, not brains.
The very fact that Gibbs thinks we are loaded everywhere just shows how dumb he is when it comes to identifying talent. Gibbs has a one track mind rookies can't help so lets sit them regardless of whether they can play or not. Rookies contribute all over the league, other coaches get them prepaired to contribute on playoff caliber teams, but I am to believe we are so good at 5-11 that theres no room for improvment by playing a rookie? 3 months worth of posts on this board of people screaming we can't stop the run, and all of a sudden big time Anthony Montgomery is the answer?
I am curious why anyone would think Gibbs didn't say that? He's pretty much said nothing but with his actions since his return. All he wants to do is bring in veteran talent, he has no desire to have to teach a rookie how to play in the NFL.
GMScud 04-25-2007, 03:38 PM I think QB is the only position where a player taken in the top 5-6 picks shouldn't start right away. It seems kind of contradictory- "we want a perennial pro-bowler," and "whoever we draft most likely won't start." Looking at all positions other than QB, most draft picks taken in the top 5-10 usually start right away. I don't really understand what Gibbs is saying.
I think QB is the only position where a player taken in the top 5-6 picks shouldn't start right away. It seems kind of contradictory- "we want a perennial pro-bowler," and "whoever we draft most likely won't start." Looking at all positions other than QB, most draft picks taken in the top 5-10 usually start right away. I don't really understand what Gibbs is saying.
Where does he say 'whoever we draft most likely won't start'??
I'm still trying to figure out where this is coming from. :doh:
Cooley played right away as a rookie, Taylor didn't play right away but he didn't take long to break the starting lineup.
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