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jsarno 04-23-2007, 11:34 PM Didn't they use the "secret recordings" to write a book about it.
Not saying I'm an expert on the subject, but I can see a motive to be misleading about the information. If they're going to make tons of money off of it, then yeah, maybe there supplying a "secret recording" to make tons of money off of it.
I understand your point...but it's not just them. It's ex trainers, ex training buddies, ex girlfriends, ex friends, ex teammates. Basically, it's anyone that came into contact with him.
When 1 person says it, you can dismiss it...but when a whole village says it, it's hard to ignore.
Bonds is as guilty as OJ and he will get off scott free like him too.
SmootSmack 04-23-2007, 11:37 PM Big difference between the "crimes" though.
jsarno 04-23-2007, 11:42 PM Big difference between the "crimes" though.
haha, yeah...sorry, didn't mean to imply otherwise. Just pointing out how guilty someone can be without being caught. Of course OJ came to mind.
GhettoDogAllStars 04-23-2007, 11:42 PM Let me say two things:
1. Bonds is guilty of steroid use. Come on, his trainer gave him the cream and the clear -- right? That is indisputable -- isn't it?
2. Charlie Hustle is the MAN! He should be in the Hall -- no doubt.
jsarno 04-24-2007, 03:39 PM Let me say two things:
1. Bonds is guilty of steroid use. Come on, his trainer gave him the cream and the clear -- right? That is indisputable -- isn't it?
2. Charlie Hustle is the MAN! He should be in the Hall -- no doubt.
The ultimate would be for A-Rod to beat Bonds record, Bonds never being allowed into the hall of fame. That would kill him.
Monkeydad 04-24-2007, 03:53 PM The ultimate would be for A-Rod to beat Bonds record, Bonds never being allowed into the hall of fame. That would kill him.
It will happen!
McGuire getting 23% of the HOF vote is an indication of what we'll be seeing from the "Steroid Era" hitters I think.
A-Rod's way ahead of Bonds' pace for career HRs too. All he has to do is stay healthy, which he's been good at so far. Actually...Bonds hasn't been very healthy (gee, I wonder why...) for a few years, so he's just helping everyone else catch up to him.
If Bonds beats Aaron, which is a disgrace, someone better come along and dethrone Bonds.
Monkeydad 04-24-2007, 03:54 PM Pujols has a chance too, but he's a LONG way away from being in the discussion...too young and too early in his career.
jsarno 04-24-2007, 04:11 PM It will happen!
McGuire getting 23% of the HOF vote is an indication of what we'll be seeing from the "Steroid Era" hitters I think.
A-Rod's way ahead of Bonds' pace for career HRs too. All he has to do is stay healthy, which he's been good at so far. Actually...Bonds hasn't been very healthy (gee, I wonder why...) for a few years, so he's just helping everyone else catch up to him.
If Bonds beats Aaron, which is a disgrace, someone better come along and dethrone Bonds.
I can see a-rod doing it. He's the only one right now though with a realistic shot to beat / break it. He has a proven track record of being healthy (which is a very good indication that he does not take steroids) and he's simply a beast.
McGwire will make it though...I don't think they wanted to set a precident that a suspected steroid user can make it first ballot. The sad thing is, McGwire admitted to andro, and he's still being kept off because of him ducking those questions in front of the grand jury.
The only two more guilty of taking roids than Bonds is Canseco and Caminiti.
Although, I have on very good authority that Sosa took roids in front of some others and offered it to them. I play softball with Shane Andrews and we've talked about Sosa and roids on many occasions.
jsarno 04-24-2007, 04:15 PM Pujols has a chance too, but he's a LONG way away from being in the discussion...too young and too early in his career.
Pujols averages 41.67 homers a season right now. So for him to catch Aaron, he'd have to keep up that pace for over 12 more years. That would make him 39 when he broke the record. That's possible...but that really is a long way away, and a lot can happen in that time.
jsarno 04-24-2007, 04:20 PM Another young gun is Miguel Cabrera...he had 104 homers by the time he was 23.
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