Redskins looking at WR in the first round

I am not making a personal claim for CJ, I am just trying to explain drafting CJ would not be all too bad.

I mean I am sure you understand you why the Skins will even consider him, right?

That's a really high bar you have for him.

And for his sake, I hope he meets his expetations so he doesn't have to deal with daily media criticism for the rest of his life.

But theres not a big chance that he will exceed your expectations. Possible, of course. Likely, no.

You dont think he will be better than Roy Williams? If he isnt better than Williams then CJ will be considered a bust. You cannot think he will be a bust.

Ok, but hooskins would you agree that the four receivers I mentioned are all among the best, if not the best, wide receivers in the NFL? And CJ, at best, would be among those receivers (even if he's at the top of that list)?

I am not making a personal claim for CJ, I am just trying to explain drafting CJ would not be all too bad.

I mean I am sure you understand you why the Skins will even consider him, right?Well, I understand the reasoning. It's the same reasoning that every other team is using.

That doesn't make it good reasoning or even acceptable.

I think theres a perfectly logical reason that so many high picks end up being busts and thats due to a series of thousands of fallacies in the way the draft process is executed.

And until things change in the way people think about the draft, this trend will continue.

There is a 99.9% someone will reach for Calvin Johnson because they will hear what people are saying and assume that he's going to be something different than what they see from him. I think it's safe to say at this point that if someone trades up for Calvin Johnson, they are making a mistake.

1st round receivers in general are good picks for teams without any elite target, TE or WR. And only about 4-5 teams fit into this category. But some team is going to draft CJ with the expectation to redefine the position.

If the expectation for you at the highest level of the game is to redefine the position, how can you possibly live up to expectations? What evidence do we have the Calvin Johnson is even physically capable of redefining the way the WR position is played?

Calvin Johnson is in an impossible position.

Ok, but hooskins would you agree that the four receivers I mentioned are all among the best, if not the best, wide receivers in the NFL? And CJ, at best, would be among those receivers (even if he's at the top of that list)?

Yes, I agree with that. I also agree that I have high expectations for CJ.

You dont think he will be better than Roy Williams? If he isnt better than Williams then CJ will be considered a bust. You cannot think he will be a bust.So, according to Hooskins...0% chance that CJ will be worse than Roy Williams?

I mean, I'm not sure how that claim can be made with such certainty.

I'll say theres a 35% chance that he's not as good as Roy Williams, which means that I think theres a 35% chance that he will be deemed a bust.

To me, if he holds a starting role in this league for 10 years, he's not a bust. He just will be incapable of living up to unprecidented expectations.

Yes, I agree with that. I also agree that I have high expectations for CJ.

That's the thing though. They're all great receivers, phenomenal even, but they aren't making their teams any better. Like I said, CJ would be great for this team if he was a final piece.

That's the thing though. They're all great receivers, phenomenal even, but they aren't making their teams any better. Like I said, CJ would be great for this team if he was a final piece.Even in that case, you'd have to be wondering why the Moss/Cooley combination would be considered inadequate, to the point where we would need to use a precious 1st rounder at the position. Seems to me that if you need to improve the passing attack, both those guys are capable of more responsibility.

I can't ever remember a situation where the hype ran this rampant before. I mean what you saw from CJ on Saturday's last year was pretty good. What these draft experts saw makes you wonder if theres a perception barrier or something. Theres just no way we were watching the same guy they were.

That's the thing though. They're all great receivers, phenomenal even, but they aren't making their teams any better. Like I said, CJ would be great for this team if he was a final piece.

Yeah but what about all the good receivers on good in the present and past?
Holt, R. Moss with the Vikings, etc.

And who is to say that team will not be better in the LR by getting a WR? They can work on their other pieces later, but get the best WR option right now.

Yeah but what about all the good receivers on good in the present and past?
Holt, R. Moss with the Vikings, etc.

And who is to say that team will not be better in the LR by getting a WR? They can work on their other pieces later, but get the best WR option right now.

You're wrong. I'm right. End of discussion. Locking this thread

Seriously though, it comes down to a difference in philosophy I suppose. I believe in buidling from the inside out as much as possible. Meaning build the trenches then work your way out to the skill players.