Redskins looking at WR in the first round

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You can't make a pick expecting historical greatness. SmootSmack is 100% correct in his assessment that Okoye, Adams, Quinn, Patrick Willis, LaRon Landry have just as good of a chance to be the best ever at their position as Johnson does.


I think you can. The way you are wording it, makes it seem like teams draft to make history. Teams draft to win, and the only way to figure out who to draft is based on college performance and potential.

I think you underplaying CJ skill and potential. He is fast, big, and smart. Receivers that are strong, big and skilled as him do not come around much. And yes Quinn has the potential of being an amazing QB too but not all those other guys. To me Quinn and CJ are the two best players coming out of the draft.

The point is you have to judge a player based on college and potential. If they are one of the best players to come in years(based on those predictions) then you have to draft them. What else can you use to judge a player?

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I think you can. The way you are wording it, makes it seem like teams draft to make history. Teams draft to win, and the only way to figure out who to draft is based on college performance and potential.

I think you underplaying CJ skill and potential. He is fast, big, and smart. Receivers that are strong, big and skilled as him do not come around much. And yes Quinn has the potential of being an amazing QB too.

The point is you have to judge a player based on college and potential. If they are one of the best players to come in years(based on those predictions) then you have to draft them. What else can you use to judge a player?Well you certainly can't use hype.

Johnson is big and fast, but in the NFL, that simply isn't going to seperate him from his competition. Everyone is big, everyone is fast. You have to be smart to seperate from your competition consistently.

Is Johnson a smart, wily receiver who can give himself an edge over any opponent? Maybe he is. But we don't know that for sure. All we know from the draft process is that he's big, strong, fast, and can jump, just like every other player he will be going up against.

I don't believe that theres anyway that Johnson will just take over this league physically. The average player in the NFL today is a physical beast. Having elite physical tools no longer makes a player special. Therefore, in my estimation, there is no reason to expect Johnson to be special.

He should be expected to be good, because thats what he was in college, very good. But how much is a very good WR worth when you already have two very good recievers? Certainly not a first round pick.

I think you can. The way you are wording it, makes it seem like teams draft to make history. Teams draft to win, and the only way to figure out who to draft is based on college performance and potential.

I think you underplaying CJ skill and potential. He is fast, big, and smart. Receivers that are strong, big and skilled as him do not come around much. And yes Quinn has the potential of being an amazing QB too but not all those other guys. To me Quinn and CJ are the two best players coming out of the draft.

The point is you have to judge a player based on college and potential. If they are one of the best players to come in years(based on those predictions) then you have to draft them. What else can you use to judge a player?

I'm changing your destination to the Easter Islands.

Let me ask you this before you go. Do you think CJ is considerably better than Larry Fitzgerald, Anquan Boldin, Roy Williams or Andre Johnson?

I'm changing your destination to the Easter Islands.

Let me ask you this before you go. Do you think CJ is considerably better than Larry Fitzgerald, Anquan Boldin, Roy Williams or Andre Johnson?I know this question wasn't directed at me, but my answer would be that these players would be a reasonable high end expectation for Johnson. He could conceivably be better, but he could very easily be worse.

We don't want to be the team to find out he can't hold Larry Fitzgerald's jock.

And even if he can, wouldn't our offense become a classic example of too many cooks (talented WRs) in the kitchen?

Calvin Johnson has hype selection written all over him, and correct me if I'm wrong, isn't that the type of acquisition that put us in this poor cap, win depreived situation that we are in today?

I agree he isnt a need, but as of now I see 3 positions we might go for.

1)DT/DE
2)WR-CJ
3)FS-Landry

I want a DT, but I could see the Skins going for those other guys based on talent. I wouldnt be surprised if we get CJ or Landry. Teams dont always draft on need, unless it is a QB they need.

I'm changing your destination to the Easter Islands.

Let me ask you this before you go. Do you think CJ is considerably better than Larry Fitzgerald, Anquan Boldin, Roy Williams or Andre Johnson?

I think CJ has the potential to be a much better version of Boldin if he stays healthy.

I think he will be better than Roy Williams without a doubt.

I agree he isnt a need, but as of now I see 3 positions we might go for.

1)DT/DE
2)WR-CJ
3)FS-Landry

I want a DT, but I could see the Skins going for those other guys based on talent. I wouldnt be surprised if we get CJ or Landry. Teams dont always draft on need, unless it is a QB they need.And I'm not saying we draft for need and turn a blind eye to logic.

I'm saying we should keep our eye on logic, and not take a player who would either prevent us from resigning Cooley, or otherwise be our third target for the first 4 years of his career.

There are a bunch of prospects that would make our team better than Johnson would that aren't on the DL. Theres also a bunch of receiver prospects who project to the NFL just as well as Johnson of whom we could trade way down for.

Outside of trading up for JaMarcus Russell, trading up for Calvin Johnson is the single worst possible use of the 2006 draft.

I think CJ has the potential to be a much better version of Boldin if he stays healthy.

I think he will be better than Roy Williams without a doubt.That's a really high bar you have for him.

And for his sake, I hope he meets his expetations so he doesn't have to deal with daily media criticism for the rest of his life.

But theres not a big chance that he will exceed your expectations. Possible, of course. Likely, no.