Gun Restrictions and Your Rights

Waiting periods used to be mandatory. I'm not sure why that changed federally, but individual states can impose it. Here in NC it's up to the Sheriff in each county if they want to impose a waiting period. Guilford County is five days and the statute says we can take up to 30 days if needed, but the county I live in (Randolph) will process your application on the spot. It's ridiculous.

I just read that Cho had been committed by his parents because they were worried about his mental health. If that's the case then NICS is going to be all over this one. People keep talking about investigating the school for their failure to react appropriately. What they should be concerned about most is why the VA state police wasn't aware of his prior commitment. My guess is that they are like NC in that they only automatically check metal health commitments for concealed carry applicants and not permits to purchase.

I may continue to ramble here and there in this thread. Forgive me, but this just hits too close to home for me. I mean, I was in NICS class this past Thursday listening to the frustration of the NICS reps talking about this very issue and then the shooting happened. It's a prime example of what we were discussing that day and it just upsets me. Our NICS rep told story after story about people like Cho and said, "How many officers do I have to lose? How many people have to die before the government realizes how serious this is?"

You're not rambling at all. You obviously have some great info to share.

I'm 100% in favor of repealing the 2nd amendment. Owning a gun makes no sense in today's world.

I'm 100% in favor of repealing the 2nd amendment. Owning a gun makes no sense in today's world.Tell that to my buddy who has a carry permit and he, his wife and daughter where attacked. They may have just wanted his wallet and her purse but we don't know what they may have done. When they saw his gun they ran away as fast as they could go.

I'm 100% in favor of repealing the 2nd amendment. Owning a gun makes no sense in today's world.

Owning a gun makes no sense in your world. Blanket statements such as this.............make no sense.

Tell that to my buddy who has a carry permit and he, his wife and daughter where attacked. They may have just wanted his wallet and her purse but we don't know what they may have done. When they saw his gun they ran away as fast as they could go.

I don't think anyone doubts that there are some, or even many, situations in which a gun would be useful, but such situations are vastly outweighed by instances in which a kid is filled by a gun accidentally going off, a gun being used against the owner by a criminal, etc. I simply don't believe that pro-gun lobbyists can honestly argue that the proliferation of guns is a good thing for society.

I really believe the only legitimate argument supporting gun ownership is that it is a constitutional and long-held right. I would still debate the point, but at least it's a valid argument.

I'm 100% in favor of repealing the 2nd amendment. Owning a gun makes no sense in today's world.Owning a gun in todays world make total sense.

Owning a gun in todays world make total sense.

Only because others own guns who shouldn't due to lax gun laws.

Only because others own guns who shouldn't due to lax gun laws.
I'm sorry if a person wants a gun and they do not obey our laws to start with they can find a way to get one. Now if we make them illegal for everyone then only the people who break the laws will have a weapon. If I'm correct I believe that over 2 million times a year a law abiding citizen protects themself with a gun. These are the only stats I could find but they do support what I have heard.
Ohio CCW Law - Statistic & Facts About Carrying Concealed Weapons (http://www.sacsconsulting.com/ccw_Statistics.htm)

I have a pistol, and I support gun ownership in America. I realize that many people die from guns, and we could reduce the number of deaths from guns if they were outlawed. However, I do not support a reduction in liberties for the sake of security. I'd rather be free and insecure, than to be secure but not free. Freedom has costs.

First off, good move LadyBrave. Kudos.

I'm not too up to snuff on the current legislation and the ins and outs of current laws. But I will say this, if we think that this incident is going to radically change existing gun laws, we'd better think again.

Also, you have to figure the vast majority of existing gun owners really are responsible and are law abiding citizens.