CBS Sportsline: Ramsey vs. Brunell

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offiss
07-18-2004, 05:20 PM
It is true Brunnell was having a heck of year last year before the injury, but Ramsey, I feel is special, but at this point the deck is stacked in Brunnel's favor.

Dana87
07-18-2004, 08:32 PM
When Joe Gibbs says it's an open competition you have to believe him. The media is giving Brunell the edge, rightfully so due to his experiance under pressure & his ability to think on his feet and make the right read in a crucial situation. Again I think Ramsey is a rare talent that has it all, except for experiance. All Spurrier taught him how to do is chuck & duck. Joe Gibbs will get him ready when his chance comes if he doesn't win the job in the preseason.

wordsmithgk
07-18-2004, 09:23 PM
I don't think Gibbs is afraid to play a young smart quarterback like Ramsey and when he says the competition is open I believe him. Coach Gibbs will start the quarterback that works the hardest and plays the best because that quarterback will give the team the best chance to be successful.

That Guy
07-18-2004, 11:10 PM
chuck and duck... i like that... :D

MTK
07-19-2004, 12:59 AM
Brunell still has 2-3 quality starting seasons left in him.

Ramsey is a talented kid with a bright future, but right now he's lacking in some key areas mainly being experience, accuracy and knowledge of the game.

Brunell is a great fit in this offense and gives the Skins the best shot at winning now.

That Guy
07-19-2004, 01:54 AM
ramsey is still probably a top 16-20 QB, i'd play him over harrington, leftwich, mcgown, palmer, manning, grossman, etc etc etc... so i'd love to see him get the experience sooner, but as long as the guy at QB is getting it done, i won't complain.

SKINSnCANES
07-19-2004, 03:26 AM
I dont think it matters to much who starts. We have both QBs so that if one gets injured we dotn lose a step. Plus, we do get to trade brunell in madden right away to try and pick up an end, lol.

That Guy, as far as your list goes, generally id support Ramsey but I really like Leftwich. Everything ive seen of this guy makes me think hes going to be a star.

backrow
07-19-2004, 08:55 AM
I defer to HOF Coach Gibbs! It doesn't matter what I think. I agree with Matty's assessment. For a young guy, Matty has a lot of FB smarts, and he's the greatest Administrator!

Defensewins
07-19-2004, 11:48 AM
Brunell still has 2-3 quality starting seasons left in him.

Ramsey is a talented kid with a bright future, but right now he's lacking in some key areas mainly being experience, accuracy and knowledge of the game.

Brunell is a great fit in this offense and gives the Skins the best shot at winning now.

I agree.
I really like Ramsey as our future QB and he will be great. But I think some of you guys might be jumping the gun and proclaiming him great now.
Ramsey still has some minor flaws to work out first.
For example Ramsey sometimes holds on to the ball way to long. A few of the sacks last year were his fault. Even Hasselback (who is not close to as good as Ramsey) did a better job of getting rid of the ball and not taking the sack.
Ramsey is also not very good at side stepping/avoiding the pass rush. He does not sense the pass rushers around him like for example Tom Brady.

I still think Gibbs watched the tapes of last year and realized he needed a vet to come in and run things while he teaches Ramsey to be great. That is not a knock on Ramsey. Ramsey is still very young and unexperienced. He has only started a few games and has never had a successful QB on his roster to mentor him. Now he does.
Having said all this and pissing all the Ramsey fans...Ramsey will eventually be the one to lead us to greatness, not Brunell. Brunell will serve to get us above .500 and hopefully into the playoffs next year.
Ramsey is the one with the potential to be great.

MTK
07-19-2004, 12:15 PM
Ramsey will really benefit from sitting for a season.

Next year I think he'll push hard for the starting job and could very well steal it away, but right now Gibbs feels most comfortable with a veteran who has a proven track record and who can blame him?

Ramsey is a heck of an insurance policy though. It's likely he'll play at some point this year, when and for how long is the real question.

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