Pacman suspended for entire 2007 season!

IMHO it is some of the players (e.g., Pacman) who are out of touch with reality. There was an ESPN article a year or two ago about how rookie seminar sessions about being tolerant of other ethnic groups, homosexuals, etc. were considered a joke. You can't honestly believe that a rookie seminar is going to make a guy like Pacman think, "Gee, no one ever told me this crime stuff is bad and I should stop hanging out with felons. By golly, I'll change my ways now." Sorry for the sarcasm, but I just can't see how the Commissioner is to blame for Pacman and other players being idiots. These are grown men and should be treated as though they know the difference between right and wrong.

Agree! You mean it's not everybody else's fault? Hard to believe.

I'll agree that marijuana laws are kinda dumb to me, but the fact is that they represent community standards. They can be repealed as soon as enough people apply pressure to their state legislatures to do so. Moreover, the penalties for possession of marijuana are really light and typically involve paying a relatively small fine. Almost no one does "time" for simple possession.

So whatever fits the criteria of "community standards" automatically makes common sense? Laws that don't make any sense are only sensical once the appropriate legislation is passed that repeal them?

"Community standards" at one time said people of color couldn't drink from the same water fountain. In some jurisdictions, 'community standards' say that you can't operate a business on Sunday.

I think upon further reflection, you might agree that community standards don't always equal common sense.

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Soon, as your get out of jail card arrives, the COMMISH wants to see ya! BYE

I think upon further reflection, you might agree that community standards don't always equal common sense.

Not always, but the vast majority of the time. I didn't intend to say that the legal system is perfect, just that it is unfairly labeled as broken.

You honestly think that the rookie seminar is the magic bullet here? How naive.
My point is that with all of the off the field incidents that have happened throughout the years, the NFL should have had a strict policy from the jump, before anyone is allowed to
violate the rule and the automatic 1 year suspension should be in place if they are found guilty of a felon. The reason I say found guilty and not if they are arrested, is because most of these guys are being tried in the media instead of a court room. How can anyone be suspended for a year on accusations of being involved in a crime? The focus should be on preventative or deterent policies that are preached and enforced from the mountain top to the valley low.

Forget about the other 9 incidents, Pacman's uncontroverted and substantiated actions at the night club in Vegas are enough to warrant a 1-year ban.

We live in a country that has adopted an "at will employment rule," meaning employers can fire their employees for just about anything. In other words, employers can fire employees "at will." The CBA, an agreement the NFLPA signed, stipulates that the Commissioner has the authority he is currently exercising. So, to require a criminal conviction prior to the imposition of any suspension would be creating a new rule.

We live in a country that has adopted an "at will employment rule," meaning employers can fire their employees for just about anything. In other words, employers can fire employees "at will." The CBA, an agreement the NFLPA signed, stipulates that the Commissioner has the authority he is currently exercising. So, to require a criminal conviction prior to the imposition of any suspension would be creating a new rule.

And there you have it, it's that simple. Hey SGG, my legal council has been pretty damn bad lately. You takin new clients? My wife also has an insurance office maybe we can get a multi line discount? Like a GOOD NEIGHBOR........ HIRED!

We live in a country that has adopted an "at will employment rule,"
Isn't it required in several states for a person to be given two weeks notice before they're let go?

I like parts of this and I don't so much like other parts. I think that being able to suspend people before the crime goes through a court of law is a huge mistake. At least wait till these guys are convicted before sitting them down. I don't want to see someone kicked off the squad for four games go to find out he had nothing to do with the situation.

That's my main gripe, and I'm not sure if anyone said this yet or not, but Pacman can reduce his punishment to ten games if he does a ton of different things. They ran through them on Sirius' afternoon blitz.

Isn't it required in several states for a person to be given two weeks notice before they're let go?

I like parts of this and I don't so much like other parts. I think that being able to suspend people before the crime goes through a court of law is a huge mistake. At least wait till these guys are convicted before sitting them down. I don't want to see someone kicked off the squad for four games go to find out he had nothing to do with the situation.

That's my main gripe, and I'm not sure if anyone said this yet or not, but Pacman can reduce his punishment to ten games if he does a ton of different things. They ran through them on Sirius' afternoon blitz.


I don't know about several states? But in VA your LUCKY to get a 2 second notice!