The Last Briggs Thread? Bears Say No Deal

Thats a stupid comment about Snyder which you have nothing to back up what you said. If Snyder was that big on this deal it would have been done but as the article said it not over with yet. Lets know what we are talking about before we bash our team, owner, coaches on something that we do not even know is true. If we find out he was behind the trade then bash all you want.

You're joking right??? Snyder was behind this all the way, Cerrato and him were down at the owners meeting in Phoenix, and Rosenhaus approached Snyder about the trade and Snyder agreed. Maybe you're the one who needs to do the research before you make a stupid comment.

You're joking right??? Snyder was behind this all the way, Cerrato and him were down at the owners meeting in Phoenix, and Rosenhaus approached Snyder about the trade and Snyder agreed. Maybe you're the one who needs to do the research before you make a stupid comment.


zing he got you there

Unless one of us can say we were there, I don't think any of us can definitely say what went down.

Firstdown:

Danny Boy went to the Wash Post and crowed about how he personally had "discovered" Patrick Ramsey and that he had "made the decision to draft him first". That wasn't a rumor; Snyder was quoted in the Wash Post Sunday magazine about that.

So, there is some evidence that he does "freelance" just a bit on football matters once in a while. And if he initiated the talks on this deal as has been suggested and if he informed Gibbs of his offer AFTER he made the offer as has been suggested, then he's meddling - - AGAIN.

Oh, and Snyder can be as big on this deal as he wants to be and it still takes an agreement from the Chicago Bears to make it happen. He can stamp his feet and throw a tantrum and fire any three random people who work for him - he's done all those things in the past too by the way - and it still would not give him the "juice" to make the deal happen if the Bears' don't want it to happen.

If bashing coaches and owners and players and Front Office geniuses really makes you upset, I guess I better issue a blanket apology right now...Ramsey wasn't actually a bad pick for No. 32 overall. He's the kind of QB you'd expect there--never going to be a dominant player, but could be good down the road.

Of course, down the road, we selected Campbell, so that put a stop to that experiment.

Lets keep something straight though. Campbell>Ramsey.

Ramsey wasn't actually a bad pick for No. 32 overall. He's the kind of QB you'd expect there--never going to be a dominant player, but could be good down the road.

Of course, down the road, we selected Campbell, so that put a stop to that experiment.

Lets keep something straight though. Campbell>Ramsey.

The jury is out on how Campbell will progress this season, hopefully good.
Ramsey on the other hand, great arm strength. One shoot to the head to many under the Spurrier era. I think he's a lifetime backup.

The jury is out on how Campbell will progress this season, hopefully good.
Ramsey on the other hand, great arm strength. One shoot to the head to many under the Spurrier era. I think he's a lifetime backup.Pretty much. If he's ever called on to start, he will perform mediocrely.

I can see where they are coming from. IMO, Okoye is the one guy who is good enough to represent the 6th pick and not hurt our defense with a glaring weakness. Carriker is the other guy I would want, but doesn't represent the 6th pick.

I think that Gibbs is turned off by Okoye's age because of his preference for older players, but I also feel that his fears are unwarrented. Yeah, hes 19, but he also played 4 full seasons in college. That's some simply invaluable experience.

He's mature beyond his years, and he's the true once in a lifetime player in this draft. If I was GM of the Redskins, and I had the No. 1 overall pick instead of the 6th, and I was absolutely unable to trade out of it, I would take Okoye first overall.

That said, I could see why Gibbs might pass on him. And looking past him, the value of player available at No. 6 isnt very good for what we like to do.

So if we can trade down out of the 6th pick, I'd be all for that I guess, even if it costs us Okoye (since theres no guarentee we'd draft him anyway). But I'd be much more satisfied with extra picks than with a veteran like Briggs. This team is not short on veteran leadership. We need cheap, young guys to be able to bring along slowly that will be the heart and sould of this team three years down the road.

The best possible move would be selecting Okoye at 6, but there are a bunch of other good moves. Luckily, this Briggs talk is put to rest for now, so we can explore those other options.


You mention the fact we need cheap, young players to be able to bring along slowly that will be the heart and soul of the team three years down the road [unquote] I agree, but unfortunately that's not the Redskins MO, they have demonstrated since Snyder bought the team that they are a FA driven team, and so far they have not demonstrated any willingness to change from that direction.

Lance Briggs aside, It is my gut feeling that the player the Redskins really want to land in this draft is Calvin Johnson, and that's despite our current WR situation. It will be a travesty if holding the 6th pick in the draft we emerge without a starting caliber player that can impact our defense.

You mention the fact we need cheap, young players to be able to bring along slowly that will be the heart and soul of the team three years down the road [unquote] I agree, but unfortunately that's not the Redskins MO, they have demonstrated since Snyder bought the team that they are a FA driven team, and so far they have not demonstrated any willingness to change from that direction.

Lance Briggs aside, It is my gut feeling that the player the Redskins really want to land in this draft is Calvin Johnson, and that's despite our current WR situation. It will be a travesty if holding the 6th pick in the draft we emerge without a starting caliber player that can impact our defense.

I certainly hope we do eventually come to our senses, and make the descission to trade down, and get at least one minimum starter for our defense, maybe better?

But with all this LB action, and it doesn't appear real clear that it's over by any strech. How do you think they could pull off CJ?
I don't think that's where we are leaning at all.

This deal didn't make sense anyway. We gave up alot to get Rocky in the first place. Then we go out and get a short and old tackling machine in Fletcher. We already have Washington playing good at his position. Marshall is a good back-up at his position. One would think we are set at the lb position, with other needs to concentrate on. Hey front office, how about focusing on the fact that we cannot get to the damn qb, and force any turnovers. THE D-LINE NEEDS AN OVERHAUL!!!!!!!!!! If you wanted Briggs, you should have gotten him instead of Fletcher. Thank you Chicago for saving us from our selves.

I certainly hope we do eventually come to our senses, and make the descission to trade down, and get at least one minimum starter for our defense, maybe better?

But with all this LB action, and it doesn't appear real clear that it's over by any strech. How do you think they could pull off CJ?
I don't think that's where we are leaning at all.


CJ is a Dan Snyder fantacy, It has been reported that he very much would like to be able to draft him (so would a lot of other teams) Not insinuating we're leaning there, but i do believe if Snyder could find a way to make it work he would. I disagree because I'm all defense myself.