1999-2000 Penn State Lions

I am just more shocked than anything at Arrington's fall from glory 3-4 years ago he was the face of our team

A chronic knee problem coupled with an achilles injury will take down the best of players. Sucks for LaVar but these things happen.

I'm just sensitive because it's my alma matter. If it was two Ohio State or Nebraska players you were talking about I'm sure I'd be calling for investigations. BTW Diehard, are you a Pitt guy?:cheeky-sm

no, most of my family is from Pittsburgh and are Pitt alumns also Penn state Alumns. It just sucked for those guys because both of them had so much promise and its like what happened ya know... I went to college in New Olreans so I am unbiast one way or the other

I know I going to light a few fires with this thread, but please remember this is only for discussion purposes...
Recently I was reflecting on Lavar Arrington and his health problems (injuries), and how he went from a force in the league (supposedly the next LT) to a failed 1st rounder that was cut twice. I also began to think about Courtney Brown and how he too had his body break down on him, basically destroying his career. It made me think... a similar breakdown of thier bodies just like Barry Bonds after he stopped taking the juice, so I began to wonder?

My point being, do any of you think Steroids played a role on that college athletic program because for 2 tremendous atheletes from the same program from the same draft have their bodies breakdown so bad it raises an eyebrow... I 'm not saying Lavar or Courtney were on steroids, I have no proof, but I just want to see what others think

Nope! Steriods don't make your tendons stronger. These two guys just had some bad luck with injuries.

Yeah, you are right. These guys clearly were on the stuff. But why stop there? What about Gale Sayers too? 6 seasons and done? Come on man, that guy was juiced up. And don't even get me started on Bo Jackson. Finally, OJ Simpson, what was his nickname? Next thing you know he is spassing out and two people are dead. Coincidence? Not coincidence, proof.

If the glove doesn't fit then you must ah-quit.

Yeah, you are right. These guys clearly were on the stuff. But why stop there? What about Gale Sayers too? 6 seasons and done? Come on man, that guy was juiced up. And don't even get me started on Bo Jackson. Finally, OJ Simpson, what was his nickname? Next thing you know he is spassing out and two people are dead. Coincidence? Not coincidence, proof.

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Steriods? Naw, I don't think so. It's going to happen when your slamming your 200+ pound body, into another 200+ pound body. I think with a full season to recoup, and train Lavar would still be a force. I think he's slacked off in training, and his body is paying the price for it. When LT was playing, it was thier life to play football, everything else came second. With the money these guys make, they play football to finace the rest of thier life.

I wasn't necessarily saying Brown/Arrington took steroids, and if they did I'd bet it wasn't till the NFL. I simply think we underestimate the amount of steroids and HGH in the league right now.

i took steriods for 10 years and look where it got me:

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