Thoughts on Potential Draft Trade With Cleveland!!!

i would do it on draft day if CJ were still avaliable. Cartwright can be the next Betts, and we would also have a 3rd rounder.


screw that the best thing a young qb can have is an explosive run game keeps 8 in the box it is elementary man come on leave 46 where he is

I agree. Don't fix what ain't broke, and our run game ain't broke.....

I'd rather keep Betts and trade down from #6, get a third round pick and still be high enough to get one of the top DLinemen.

Agreed! Nice Post...

screw that the best thing a young qb can have is an explosive run game keeps 8 in the box it is elementary man come on leave 46 where he isIt's true. Play action is a young QB's best friend.

It's not like teams are going to play 8 in the box every play against a good RB. They will be mixing up their fronts and coverage all game. But if that PA can hold the linebackers even just a step, those intermediate passing lanes will be wide open.

Agreed! Nice Post...

trade down to where and to whom? That assertion is compleltly ambiguous, and this is under the assumption that the top d-lineman will be available!

They will be going fast in the first 15 picks. So past in the first 15 picks Adams, Anderson, Okoye, Branch, and Carriker are all poised to be gone!

I hear everyone, but I WILL BE NAMING NAMES of the warpath faithful who will bicker and complain about how many people we could have had after our first pick!!

Im telling you now it will suck, and I WILL be here to remind all of you if you do in fact complain or start any forums thereafter!!!

I could see us trading up w/Cleveland, then in turn trading the #3 to Denver for their 1st, 2nd & 3rd. This seems possible since the broncos seem to think they're a player or two away.

I don't know how much cash the broncos have left under the cap though.

trade down to where and to whom? That assertion is compleltly ambiguous, and this is under the assumption that the top d-lineman will be available!

They will be going fast in the first 15 picks. So past in the first 15 picks Adams, Anderson, Okoye, Branch, and Carriker are all poised to be gone!

I hear everyone, but I WILL BE NAMING NAMES of the warpath faithful who will bicker and complain about how many people we could have had after our first pick!!

Im telling you now it will suck, and I WILL be here to remind all of you if you do in fact complain or start any forums thereafter!!!

I love your passion... I've been a REDSKINS fan since 69' and I will always live and die with the decisions of our FO...
It will be interesting, to see how this develops!!!

It's hard to call successful PA if other teams don't respect your passing game or when they don't get burned for biting on the run, so I don't agree with the thinking that WR's impact so few of your offensive plays. However, the KC offense that keeps getting referred to was an Al Saunders offense in large part, and they went for 2 rb's over having killer WR's. I'm sure we would all be happy if our offense could come close to matching the production of Saunders' KC offenses. I suppose his thinking and JG's thinking will ultimately determine whether or not a Betts and our pick for CJ would benefit the team or not. I would honestly not complain with any of our potential moves if we get to see a better product on the field and win some freaking games. Time is running out on Gibbs II and all we want is to see him and the team do well.

It's hard to call successful PA if other teams don't respect your passing game or when they don't get burned for biting on the run, so I don't agree with the thinking that WR's impact so few of your offensive plays. However, the KC offense that keeps getting referred to was an Al Saunders offense in large part, and they went for 2 rb's over having killer WR's. I'm sure we would all be happy if our offense could come close to matching the production of Saunders' KC offenses. I suppose his thinking and JG's thinking will ultimately determine whether or not a Betts and our pick for CJ would benefit the team or not. I would honestly not complain with any of our potential moves if we get to see a better product on the field and win some freaking games. Time is running out on Gibbs II and all we want is to see him and the team do well.The difference between what Kansas City had under Saunders and what we had last year was 100% in the blocking. Our offensive line may be the best in our division, but Kansas City had a dominant blocking TE, and the best OL in football. They didn't even have a gamebreaker like Santana Moss, but were so consistent that it didn't even matter.

If we want to improve our offense, THAT is the blueprint to follow. Improve the OL even more.

The only other option is to leave the offense as is, accept the fact that we won't ever make it into the top 3-5 offensively, and try to build up the defense into a playoff caliber one by pouring all of our resources into it.

If that's the blueprint wouldn't Saunders know it and why don't they go after it? Thanks to guys like Gibbs and Saunders you see how an extremely effective offense can revolve around your OL. What if they trade up to take that Wisconsin Guy? Move Jansen to the middle? That's honestly another part of our team that I could see us upgrading but with Samuels at LT we really need guards and someday soon a RT. I think in football that you need a dominant unit on each side of the ball, and then you scheme around the strengths of said unit. The ones that seem the most obvious are OL and DL. Give me a team with standout OL's and DL's and above average quarterbacking and you can't expect to lose more often than you win. CJ would give us standouts in the passing game, which is another rout to take. We already get average to somewhat above average OL play.

My whole thinking on this has been that Landry would give us a standout secondary, and CJ would give us standout WR's to go with Portis, Campbell and Cooley. The risk is that you really upgrade and sink money and draft picks into positions where football games are not ultimately won. If I were building a team from scratch, I would go for QB first and then build the lines, while keeping an eye out for one standout CB, WR, LB, RB and TE. Unfortunately, we don't have that luxury, because we are up against the cap with a dearth of draft picks and our roster is almost set. So, it's either shore up the DL knowing that the unit will most likely not become dominant overnight, or go bonkers at saftey or WR.

To me it's a Gibbs decision on a Gibbs time-frame, so he'll make the decision based on who helps him re-climb the mountain fastest. I guess we have to sit back, cavetch, and hope for the best.