What is your main gripe with the proposed Briggs deal?

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JDALY27
03-30-2007, 10:32 AM
1)The magnitude of the contract Briggs is getting negates a lot of the future cap space we freed up with the Archuleta and Patten cuts.

2)Were probably going to have to cut Wynn to make this jive with the cap

3)This move doesn't improve the defense all that much. Defensive Line is still more important, and this still compromises our ability to improve there.

Out of the poll choices, I'd take both "out of position to get an impact player at No. 6" and "doesn't fill a need" if I could.

At the very least, this trade pours more resources into the defensive side of the ball where we badly need them. That's always a plus.

1) we have no idea how the contract would be structured. Give Snyder more credit. He'a a wizard when it comes to that.

2) Wynn is past his prime and won't impact the Redskins either way.

3) Doesn't improve the Defense all that much? Another assumption based on no facts. Last year nobody was saying AA was a good fit or star player. This year almost every NFL analyst agrees that Briggs is one of the top 5-6 LB's in the league today.

The only arguement is losing the ability to draft a star Defensive lineman at # 6. Who knows what we can scoop up at # 31, that will determine alot.

MTK
03-30-2007, 10:32 AM
Just a question, would anyone be happy if we got Briggs and were still able to get a quality defensive lineman at #31?

Schneed10
03-30-2007, 10:37 AM
My problems:

1) This move buries Rocky McIntosh in the depth chart. He looked promising when he got on the field to me.

2) Briggs is going to cost a lot, which impacts us THIS YEAR. We'll have to cut Wynn this season to accomodate Briggs. Wynn is liked in the locker room. I worry how that will affect player morale.

3) Briggs' cap hit won't be terrible in 07 or 08, but in 09 it's going to get huge. We can deal with it, but it's just more problems.

4) D line is a much bigger need than LB. Kedric Golston is not a run stopper.

5) If we're going to make this deal, at least wait until we're on the clock at 6. If Peterson or Quinn are there at 6, I bet you a thousand dollars we can get a better offer than Briggs and the 31. If nobody calls, then I'd prefer just picking Okoye at 6. But if we trade for Briggs, at least we will have given the league a chance to blow us away with an offer for Brady Quinn or Adrian Peterson.

The whole move reeks of stupidity.

artmonkforhallofamein07
03-30-2007, 10:39 AM
You guys do realize that we would have to pay that 6th overall pick about the same as Briggs right. So don't tell me about spending to much money. Number 6 is going to make alot of money and we don't even know if he can play.

Schneed10
03-30-2007, 10:40 AM
Just a question, would anyone be happy if we got Briggs and were still able to get a quality defensive lineman at #31?

To be honest, no.

Briggs buries Rocky, which means we wasted our 2nd rounder this year (don't forget, we traded that pick to get Rocky last year). So essentially, we will have traded the #6, a second rounder, and a ton of cap space (the Briggs cap hit minus the Rocky cap hit) all to fill our OLB spot and a quality DL.

We'll have to release Wynn, still a serviceable DL himself, and a locker room favorite. I worry about the team getting pissed that we dump our own players and leaders for these guys who come in and get paid.

Hog1
03-30-2007, 10:41 AM
Just a question, would anyone be happy if we got Briggs and were still able to get a quality defensive lineman at #31?

I could live with that. After, reflecting on the deal for a few days, I am better with it. I am concerned with cost of paying Briggs, and our 31st pick.
I view Briggs as a nice to have, rather than crucial. Some way, we have to come out of this thing with AT LEAST one GOOD D-linemean. That is crucial.
It would make a, nice, kick ass, starting three. Another concer, is what is up with Rocky? Can't play, not ready yet?

ArtMonkDrillz
03-30-2007, 10:41 AM
Just a question, would anyone be happy if we got Briggs and were still able to get a quality defensive lineman at #31?I wouldn't be happy, but I'd be "less pissed." I'd still be bitter that we have no 2nd rounder for essentially no reason at all. Plus, like I said before, I feel like we really don't need another LB at this point.

Ideally we trade down a few spots, still get a good DT like Okoye or Branch, and pick up at least a 2nd rounder (where, apparently, the real gems can be found) so that we can get some secondary help.

Schneed10
03-30-2007, 10:41 AM
You guys do realize that we would have to pay that 6th overall pick about the same as Briggs right. So don't tell me about spending to much money. Number 6 is going to make alot of money and we don't even know if he can play.

That is categorically incorrect.

Last year, the 6th pick, Vernon Davis of the 49ers, got $14 million in guaranteed money, and his deal was worth a total of $5 million per season over 5 years.

Briggs is rumored to be getting $20 million in guarantees, and a total of $7.5 million per season.

Not to mention we still have to pay #31 on top of it - though I'll grant you that if #31 pans out as a good player, he'll be a bargain at what we're paying him.

But the real value isn't keeping the #6 pick, the real value is trading down to get away from the #6 pick dollars, and pay a lower 1st, 2nd, and maybe 3rd rounder to fill the multiple gaps we have.

artmonkforhallofamein07
03-30-2007, 10:44 AM
Ok sorry schneed. I still don't think this deal is to terrible. I'm not going to get all upset if it is done. I've put to much emotion into the Redskins offseason these past few years and I'm tired of it at this point I'm at the point where I don't care just let me go to some games next year and watch them win and then on to the Superbowl. lol

redsk1
03-30-2007, 10:50 AM
No question Briggs is a great player, but let's say b/c of Brigg's big salary we had to cut Marcus Washington next year or couldn't afford to pay Cooley next year. What we do now affects how we handle our guys in years to come.

We have enough talent at LB!!! Get some other help. We gave away the house to get Rocky. Let him play unless he's totally incompetent.

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