Maske/JLC: Gibbs Hints Redskins Might Trade Up

I heard that if Snyder goes after the salad in round 1, Vinny will toss it for him.

Ewwwwwwwwww NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT. But still ewwwwwwwww

I officially think the Skins FO is having a good ole time this off season making everyone poop their pants. We have in the span of several weeks.

-Turned down an offer to trade our 6 for like the broncos entire draft board and Al Wilson
-"Almost" consumated a similar deal with Bly instead.
-Have worked feverishly to trade down and get more picks
-Worked to trade up to get CJ
-Redecided to trade down and get Briggs and Chi's 1st
-Redecided to trade up and get CJ.

Without a doubt no one has any clue what the hell we are doing and at this point it has to be by design.

And don't forget about sending Betts or Portis to the Jets for Vilma, I think that was the rumor that kicked everything off.

gmanc, good post. no matter who says what, there is no such thing as a sure thing. and this is the first time i can ever remember the redskins playing the draft game the right way. letting all the other teams think that they want everyone. does anyone, other then the skins front office, have a clue to who they really want?

1990 Jeff George, qb Illinois Indianapolis 13 0
1991 Russell Maryland, dt Miami, (Fla.) Dallas 10 1
1992 Steve Emtman, dt Washington Indianapolis 8 0
1993 Drew Bledsoe, qb Washington State New England 14 4
1994 Dan Wilkinson, dt Ohio State Cincinnati 13 0
1995 Ki-Jana Carter, rb Penn State Cincinnati 8 0
1996 Keyshawn Johnson, wr Southern Cal. N.Y. Jets 11 4
1997 Orlando Pace, ot Ohio State St. Louis Rams 10 7
1998 Peyton Manning, qb Tennessee Indianapolis 9 7
1999 Tim Couch, qb Kentucky Cleveland 6 0
2000 Courtney Brown, de Penn State Cleveland 7 0
2001 Michael Vick, qb Virginia Tech Atlanta 6 3
2002 David Carr, qb Fresno State Houston 5 0
2003 Carson Palmer, qb Southern Cal. Cincinnati 4 2
2004 Eli Manning, qb Mississippi San Diego 3 0
2005 Alex Smith, qb Utah San Francisco 2 0
2006 Mario Williams, de N. Carolina State Houston 1 0


Those are all the other "Can't miss" guys in the draft. Do you want any of them. Other than the ones I highlighted, none of these guys made the impact that people think the #1 pick should. So why should we spend the #1 pick and trade up to get that pick for the "cant miss" guy instead of filling needs!?!?

Obviously the jury is still out on a few people. But Mike Williams of Detroit was a "Cant Miss" guy a couple years ago, and he was inactive most of the season.

*I bolded the guys who have "Panned out" for the most part, and even a couple of those are a stretch

Post of the year candidate right here.

Apparently a deal was reported on the John Thompson show that the deal for Briggs is done. :doh:

Apparently a deal was reported on the John Thompson show that the deal for Briggs is done. :doh:

I heard that the deal wasn't done, and that the report was based on the Chicago Sun-Times article I posted. The article basically said that Briggs and the Skins had agreed upon contract terms, but the Redskins and Bears had not agreed upon trade terms. Maybe I'm wrong.

1990 Jeff George, qb Illinois Indianapolis 13 0
1991 Russell Maryland, dt Miami, (Fla.) Dallas 10 1
1992 Steve Emtman, dt Washington Indianapolis 8 0
1993 Drew Bledsoe, qb Washington State New England 14 4
1994 Dan Wilkinson, dt Ohio State Cincinnati 13 0
1995 Ki-Jana Carter, rb Penn State Cincinnati 8 0
1996 Keyshawn Johnson, wr Southern Cal. N.Y. Jets 11 4
1997 Orlando Pace, ot Ohio State St. Louis Rams 10 7
1998 Peyton Manning, qb Tennessee Indianapolis 9 7
1999 Tim Couch, qb Kentucky Cleveland 6 0
2000 Courtney Brown, de Penn State Cleveland 7 0
2001 Michael Vick, qb Virginia Tech Atlanta 6 3
2002 David Carr, qb Fresno State Houston 5 0
2003 Carson Palmer, qb Southern Cal. Cincinnati 4 2
2004 Eli Manning, qb Mississippi San Diego 3 0
2005 Alex Smith, qb Utah San Francisco 2 0
2006 Mario Williams, de N. Carolina State Houston 1 0


Those are all the other "Can't miss" guys in the draft. Do you want any of them. Other than the ones I highlighted, none of these guys made the impact that people think the #1 pick should. So why should we spend the #1 pick and trade up to get that pick for the "cant miss" guy instead of filling needs!?!?

Obviously the jury is still out on a few people. But Mike Williams of Detroit was a "Cant Miss" guy a couple years ago, and he was inactive most of the season.

*I bolded the guys who have "Panned out" for the most part, and even a couple of those are a stretch


GMANC - wasn't Charles Rogers a "can't miss game changing WR" as well? Plus it pains me to remember this but anyone remember trading away multiple picks to get good old Desmond Howard - he was going to make the Skins unstoppable from what I remember.

Here's the problem I have with this. We just spend big bucks and picks last year to get Randle-El and Lloyd; two relatively young receivers who have shown they can play in this league. Furthermore, we have Moss and Cooley (who I'll count as a WR for these purposes).

Granted, neither Lloyd nor El put up stellar numbers but a.) we were dealing with a new offense that everyone admits takes a year to learn and b.) Jason Campbell was for all intents and purposes a rookie when he played in the back half of the season.

CJ is great, no question about that. But why do we want to just give up on our current receivers-especially two guys we just spent big on just last year-after only one season in a new offense with a young quarterback. Why not let them grow together?

If you want to tear that unit up then fine, but it's hard to listen then when you turn right around and talk about how we have no patience as a front office, and we need to develop our players and so forth. (and when I say "you" I'm addressing the universal "you")

While I'm personally against the trade (even though I hear "Calvin Johnson breaks the TD record and the redskins win the superbowl!" uncontrollably in my head) I think we should probably show the door to Brandon Lloyd.

I think here is a case where we took a chance on a guy. We said, hey, this guy put up some decent numbers with a fairly mediocre QB throwing to him, seems not to be fitting in there, but we've got a lot of characters on our team. I mean look at portis, he's frickin insane. So yeah... maybe we'll be able to get more of those crazy diving catches on a regular basis.

Problem is A) We were wrong about his attitude. This isn't some unique personality, he's just a big whiny baby. He acts like his shit doesn't stink, while everyone can smell him for miles.

and B) He really isn't that good. Now I'm basing this off of my "gut" feeling, but I tend to think pound for pound ARE made a bigger impact on this team. Using statistics to defend your argument either way won't work, because of the situation of our offense, but I really think he's useless.

I've heard the "Let the WR's gel together" argument, but I don't want the chance of our offense "gelling" and mid-season we have a mental breakdown, while throwing off the chemistry and rhythm of the season. I think we should axe Lloyd(who knows maybe try to get a 6 rnd pick for him), and either pick up a vet receiver or give Mike Espy a shot.

I've gone from not sold on Lloyd, to irritated, to sold on throwing him over board. I am fickle, I know.

I heard that the deal wasn't done, and that the report was based on the Chicago Sun-Times article I posted. The article basically said that Briggs and the Skins had agreed upon contract terms, but the Redskins and Bears had not agreed upon trade terms. Maybe I'm wrong.

That's how I understand it to be too.

I heard that the deal wasn't done, and that the report was based on the Chicago Sun-Times article I posted. The article basically said that Briggs and the Skins had agreed upon contract terms, but the Redskins and Bears had not agreed upon trade terms. Maybe I'm wrong.

Honestly, I'm rooting for the Bears on this one. Of course, I'll try and see the silver lining if this does go through, but it'll be tough.