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Big C 03-28-2007, 06:48 PM FOX Sports - NFL - For once, 'Skins better off trading (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6618234)
i heard him praise this deal for the skins on his radio show on sirius, thanks for the link :)
GusFrerotte 03-28-2007, 07:03 PM We need to stay put for a change. We need to finally focus on what we should have focused on 4 years ago, the D line with regards to the draft. The guys we have now were acquired when they already were passed their prime and were starting to become walking injuries. Stick with getting Branch or Okeye please. At the 6th pick it will be hard not to pick up a guy that will become a starter, but we need a pass rush desperately!!!!!
GusFrerotte 03-28-2007, 07:09 PM We need to stay put for a change. Getting more lesser round picks is nice if you just want to stock up on new practice squad guys for the most part. Rarely is there a diamond in the rough past round 3. Stick with #6 and get Branch or Okeye, we need to address our needs in earnest for a change. We have wasted too many drafts in recent years.
hooskins 03-28-2007, 07:32 PM Honestly this might not be a bad move if you guys think about it and look at the contacts of our receivers. We are gonna have to do some house cleaning and AR-E and Moss's numbers skyrocket in a couple years. Might not be bad to have a good receiver. But at the same time we do need help on the D-line.
SkinsFanSince91 03-28-2007, 07:37 PM The most recently rumored to deal is to Cleveland to leap from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to get C Johnson.
The deal includes the 6th overall, Ladell Betts, and our recently acquired 6th round pick for the 3rd overall and a 3rd round pick.
I dont think its a bad deal. WE get a stellar athlete with great upside and work ethic, and we get a 3rd round pick in the deal to draft a DT/DE/RB.
Just imagine Calvin Johnson to one side, Santana Moss to the other, and Antwaan Ranldle El working the slot. This move could accelerate the growth of Jason Campbell. The 3rd round pick is up for grabs too.
If this went down I'd always think that we should go with what we need, but taking a player like Calvin Johnson, I would not be mad at that!
diehardskin2982 03-28-2007, 07:39 PM If they see value in Jason Campbell I say pick up Calvin Johnson. He would make Jason better flat out. But if they want to improve the team they better draft a d-tackle to stop the run and help the Defense. The briggs trade is Idiotic and useless, just grome Rocky to be what we want him to be
SkinsFanSince91 03-28-2007, 07:39 PM The most recently rumored to deal, according to Washington Post Live show, is to Cleveland to leap from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to get C Johnson.
The deal includes the 6th overall, Ladell Betts, and our recently acquired 6th round pick for the 3rd overall and a 3rd round pick. Cleveland needs a RB, so the BEtts addition would help them out.
I dont think its a bad deal. WE get a stellar athlete with great upside and work ethic, and we get a 3rd round pick in the deal to draft a DT/DE/RB.
Just imagine Calvin Johnson to one side, Santana Moss to the other, and Antwaan Ranldle El working the slot. This move could accelerate the growth of Jason Campbell. The 3rd round pick is up for grabs too.
If this went down I'd always think that we should go with what we need, but taking a player like Calvin Johnson, I would not be mad at that!
skinsfanthru&thru 03-28-2007, 07:41 PM The most recently rumored to deal is to Cleveland to leap from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to get C Johnson.
The deal includes the 6th overall, Ladell Betts, and our recently acquired 6th round pick for the 3rd overall and a 3rd round pick.
I dont think its a bad deal. WE get a stellar athlete with great upside and work ethic, and we get a 3rd round pick in the deal to draft a DT/DE/RB.
Just imagine Calvin Johnson to one side, Santana Moss to the other, and Antwaan Ranldle El working the slot. This move could accelerate the growth of Jason Campbell. The 3rd round pick is up for grabs too.
If this went down I'd always think that we should go with what we need, but taking a player like Calvin Johnson, I would not be mad at that!
the one consistent all offseason though has been Gibbs praising Betts and talking about the split carries between Portis and Betts would become a lot more even than the last couple seasons so I just don't see Betts being traded at all. I like CJ but the running game has been the only consistent this team has had the last few seasons and will be fun to watch the 2 headed beast being even better this season.
100% PURE WHOOP ASS 03-28-2007, 07:48 PM For the life of me I just don't understand why people are so against this. HE IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE DRAFT. I get so tired of people saying we don't need wr's. DID ANYONE WATCH ANY GAMES LAST YEAR????????????? Outside of Santana which WR on our roster has done anything?
When you go 5-11 there is PLENTY of blame to go around. Not just on defense but on offense too. We hopefully solved the problem at QB, LB and DB's. Yes we need DE, DT but do any of you think that maybe alot of the players that are on the board are not that good?
I'll use this comparison one more time. Texans drafted for need and took Mario freaking Williams who didn't do shit. I bet if the Texans had a chance to do it all over again they would take Bush cause he was the best player on in the 06 draft.
We drafted for need a few years ago when Smoot left and took Carlos R. How in the hell did our scouting dept. grade Carlos higher than Merriman or D. Ware?
Calvin J. is simply put a freak. He's going to make any offense better the minute he walks on the field. He's going to do things that will NEVER EVER show up in the stat sheet. Can any of you imagine the PI's this guy will draw? Plus defenses are going to have to slide coverages to his side of the field which could open up all kinds of room for Santana and Cooley. Plus saftey's will never come near the LOS like they did last year when Brunell was QB. Opens up the running game so that helps Portis and Betts.
I hope we package Lloyd and move up and take this guy!!!!!!!
MAN WHO ARE? cause im gone brown nose here, your got damn right, how the hell we missed Merriman or Ware, I think most of the people here think we should get DT or DE, but for the last freakin time, there will be good veterans available come draft time, (bet on it) CJ dont come but every once in 5-10 years, look at all the flops the Lions made! if we can trade up give away this years next years and 1st rounder and a 2nd, shit take it, greg williams is a genius, he will figure it out, and who gives a shit who's the #1 receiver, as long as where winning, thats all i care about and in the red zone, they will have to pay special attention to Johnson, which leaves portis and coley with more plays for them. TAKE HIM, TAKE HIM, TAKE HIM!!!!!!!
100% PURE WHOOP ASS 03-28-2007, 07:52 PM Here's the problem I have with this. We just spend big bucks and picks last year to get Randle-El and Lloyd; two relatively young receivers who have shown they can play in this league. Furthermore, we have Moss and Cooley (who I'll count as a WR for these purposes).
Granted, neither Lloyd nor El put up stellar numbers but a.) we were dealing with a new offense that everyone admits takes a year to learn and b.) Jason Campbell was for all intents and purposes a rookie when he played in the back half of the season.
CJ is great, no question about that. But why do we want to just give up on our current receivers-especially two guys we just spent big on just last year-after only one season in a new offense with a young quarterback. Why not let them grow together?
If you want to tear that unit up then fine, but it's hard to listen then when you turn right around and talk about how we have no patience as a front office, and we need to develop our players and so forth. (and when I say "you" I'm addressing the universal "you") cause outside of moss and cooley,.........they suck!!!!!!!!!!!! brandon lloyd was a bust, was benched in the middle of the season, and randle el is a 3rd at best, hell in pittsburg he was the third option!!!!!!! hell i package el, lloyd, 6pick and next year 1st rounder on this kid,.........he is a cant miss!
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