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BrudLee 03-27-2007, 10:50 AM Crazy thought I just had...
Previously, the Redskins were in discussions with the Broncos - Washington's sixth overall pick for Dré Bly and Denver's first, and reacquire a second- and third- round pick, which were dealt away (the Broncos have the Redskins' third-round selection from the T.J. Duckett trade). Obviously, this hasn't happened. By talking about our first rounder in conjunction with a two-time Pro Bowler under the franchise tag, could we be putting pressure on Denver to accept a previous deal that they may have tabled?
diehardskin2982 03-27-2007, 10:52 AM I hope this doesn't happen unless we get OUR 2nd rounder back in this pick.
JankySpanky80 03-27-2007, 10:53 AM This is stupid. If it goes through what Defensive lineman will be available at 31.
Skinsfanatic 03-27-2007, 11:03 AM How about this, what if we were planning to make the Denver trade (6 for 21, Bly and second and third), and then trade the 21 pick (and maybe the third) for the 31 pick and Briggs. The move from 21 to 31 is worth 275 (the equivalent of a late 2nd).
Skins give up the 6th pick, get Bly, Briggs, the 31st pick and a second round pick
Denver gives up Bly, 21, second and third round picks, get the 6th pick.
Bears give up Briggs and the 31 pick, get the 21 and a third.
GTripp0012 03-27-2007, 11:03 AM I'm scared because I'm about to argue fervently against The Ego. But here goes nothing...
Just because a guy is labeled a franchise player, is he automatically worth 2 first round picks? That's what the CBA says a franchise player is worth in a trade, but that doesn't mean teams are willing to pay that.
If Lance Briggs didn't have the franchise tag, would you give this year's first rounder and next year's first rounder for him? I'd hope not. The reason? He's not worth that much, no matter what tag he has on him!
We're not coming out ahead of anything. We'd get a really good LB and a pick that can't possibly land us an impact DT. We don't need 1 good LB. We need an impact DT, a young G to groom (don't forget, we're currently planning on forcing a career-long T who is built like a T to switch to G), an athletic S to play alongside Taylor, and some would say a young DE because we're getting old at that spot.
This trade does not fit our needs, it doesn't solve our problems, and it perpetuates the players' discontent with our front office's willingness to pay outside talent rather than pay to keep their own. We need to trade the 6th pick for more picks, not Lance Briggs and a pick that can't solve our biggest need: DT.To play devil's advocate for a second-
I like Justin Harrell as a prospect. And there's an outside chance that Alan Branch could still be around at 31. So if we could land a prospect whom we were considering at 6, and now only have to pay him No. 31 money, we'd actually come out great in this deal.
But then again, if Harrell and Branch get taken prior to 31, and we don't have an option but to take the best remaining DL prospect, then the Briggs deal has officially royaly screwed us.
If we are genuinely interested in this deal, I could only assume it was because we weren't enamored with ANY of the top prospects.
dmek25 03-27-2007, 11:11 AM How about this, what if we were planning to make the Denver trade (6 for 21, Bly and second and third), and then trade the 21 pick (and maybe the third) for the 31 pick and Briggs. The move from 21 to 31 is worth 275 (the equivalent of a late 2nd).
Skins give up the 6th pick, get Bly, Briggs, the 31st pick and a second round pick
Denver gives up Bly, 21, second and third round picks, get the 6th pick.
Bears give up Briggs and the 31 pick, get the 21 and a third.
this works for everyone but the bears. they lose an all pro linebacker for the equivalent of a third round pick. with him carrying the franchise tag, the can do alot better
Skinsfanatic 03-27-2007, 11:12 AM this works for everyone but the bears. they lose an all pro linebacker for the equivalent of a third round pick. with him carrying the franchise tag, the can do alot better
actually, its the equivalent of a second and a third, and even if we gave them the move up and a second, with us keeping the third, we would still be doing pretty good.
Paintrain 03-27-2007, 11:13 AM How about this, what if we were planning to make the Denver trade (6 for 21, Bly and second and third), and then trade the 21 pick (and maybe the third) for the 31 pick and Briggs. The move from 21 to 31 is worth 275 (the equivalent of a late 2nd).
Skins give up the 6th pick, get Bly, Briggs, the 31st pick and a second round pick
Denver gives up Bly, 21, second and third round picks, get the 6th pick.
Bears give up Briggs and the 31 pick, get the 21 and a third.
Are the Redskins giving up some magic beans to build a beanstalk to get all of that? Seriously, that's not a trade that would even fly on Madden.
RFKRat 03-27-2007, 11:14 AM no link to this story but on the nfl network on the scroll on the bottom of the screen for the bears they are saying they are considering trading briggs and the 31st overall in the first round for the skins 6th pick in the first round.
Bears fan here in DC, I also follow the Skins alot too. As a Bears fan, I'd make this deal in a second. The Bears have the 37th pick also, so losing the 31 and gaining the 6 is a no-brainer. And Briggs while a great linebacker, is probably going to cost the Skins a monster paycheck. He turned down a huge and fair offer from the Bears last year. And while he's very good, he's also surrounded by an already very good D in Chicago, especially with Urlacher next to him. So as a Bears fan I'm drooling over this....the Redskins fan in me says stay away.
Beemnseven 03-27-2007, 11:19 AM for the life of me I can't understand all of the negativity towards this proposed deal. We keep a 1st rounder, and gain a STUD of a LB. Rocky may not be developing the way they want, or if they are like me, you just can't pass up on a guy like Briggs. especially when you essentially just change picks and do not lose our 1st rounder. Our D line does need to be addressed, which it will, just later in the draft. The draft is deep enough we can get a quality player. There may be something in the works we do not know about yet. I can't believe the number of people that are all for signing aged up LB or OLINE men, but when a 26 year old beast LB comes available for essentially nothing, people are bashing it. Yes it will cost us, yes Rocky will sit, but that is just a move that can't be ignored. That side of our D was consistantly run all over.
The problem is we don't have any other picks until round 5 -- and there will not be any defensive linemen at that late stage to help where we need it most. This year's draft is deep at DL, but not that deep. If we take this deal and get the 31st pick, we won't have any bargaining power to trade down -- so there definitely won't be anything else "in the works" if this happens.
Teams ran all over us at the defensive line first -- so it follows that we need to address the front four first. Briggs won't matter at that point.
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