Maybe Vinny Cerrato isn't the Anti-Christ

Well said, for once we agree. :)


I just knew we'd find common ground somewhere. :D

Every player that has left this team says the same thing. It can not be dismissed as a player just dogging the team and its meaningless. There begins to be truth behind it when multiple players all say the same thing.

Every player? I guess it wasn't a big enough problem for guys like Stoutmire and Smoot who've come back. And I never heard Bowen, Royal, or Dockery say bad things. And Ramsey took it like a man and said he's not blaming anyone, just trying to move on. And LaVar, Darnerien, and Gardner can all just shut up because no team wants any of them anyway.

I think part of what makes for a "top tier" tight end isn't necessarily measured in numbers the way it is for wideouts. They're a more subtle aspect of what makes up a great offense. The threat they pose as an outlet receiver, the blocking they're required to do, it's difficult to pinpoint ...

I just don't think Cooley's there yet. He could be close, though.

Where would you rank him?

Top 10? Top 15?

Personally I'd find it very hard to put him outside of the top 10.

Where would you rank him?

Top 10? Top 15?

Personally I'd find it very hard to put him outside of the top 10.

Well, he's certainly not in the bottom half of the league. He could be in the top ten, but on my personal, completely arbitrary scale, he's probably at the top of the "second tier".

Gibbs is always the first one to stick his neck out and say blame me.

Kind of funny though, almost no one ever does?

Kind of funny though, almost no one ever does?

Did you sleep through last season?

I think we had a pretty long and heated thread titled 'Gibbs must go' at some point last year.

Did you sleep through last season?

I think we had a pretty long and heated thread titled 'Gibbs must go' at some point last year.

Yea thats me Rumple stiltzSKIN.:)

Very few are willing to admit Gibbs is off the wall as far as running a team, he knows nothing of personel, including his own. As I said early on in Gibbs second tenure, he has been trying to pound a square peg threw a round hole to try and prove he can run an organization with total control, he is a fish out of water, Bobby Beathard made sure Gibbs was constantly stocked with some of the best talent in the NFL, Gibbs had the luxury of running the ball down any defense's throat any time he wanted to with the hogs that BB assembled. Well Gibbs no longer has the best line in football as he enjoyed for 10 years under BB, and now he is finding it much more dificult to coach without that advantage.

I think it's a bit of a stretch to say he knows nothing about personnel. It's not like this roster is totally devoid of talent.

If there's anything negative I can say about the current coaching staff, I think they place FAR too much emphasis on having players with experience.

- Williams is ALWAYS trying to find guys that have played in his system.
- Williams AND Gibbs are always wanting people who are VETS.
- Williams benches his rookies, no matter how they're drafting.

I think it's a bit of a stretch to say he knows nothing about personnel. It's not like this roster is totally devoid of talent.

Thats fair, but it could be a whole lot better for a lot less money that is for sure.