RUMOR: Skins looking to trade up for C.J.

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GiantsSuck703
03-19-2007, 08:52 PM
Yea, your probably wrong.
What wins the big game??? BIG D, where we need the MOST help!
If I had to guess we would be trading down....more picks. Not the other way around.
This source is CRAP. Don't Believe!


You mean the way the Bears great defense showed up and won the superbowl for chicago? Oh wait.....

4mrusmc
03-19-2007, 09:00 PM
I say if he can rush the passer while playing defensive end. And, if he can get like 20 sacks. Oh, he would also have to be oustanding at stopping the run. Doing this while giving us the second coming of Jerry Rice at wide receiver. I say sure, sounds good to me.

Schneed10
03-19-2007, 09:08 PM
Football is a team sport, last I checked. One, superstud WR is not all this team needs.

We can't keep relying on free agency being our main source of players to fill out our roster. With cap space more and more abundant around the league, fewer and fewer players are making it to the free agent market; they're all getting signed before then.

We can't afford to give up picks in a trade-up scenario, even for a "can't miss" (I don't buy that term about anybody, but it's used by people anyway) WR.

We need multiple players to build a good young core. Our existing core is getting older and needs to be replenished.

dmek25
03-19-2007, 09:10 PM
these new threads keep getting dumber and dumber

Big C
03-19-2007, 09:21 PM
cj is going to be an amazing player, but we dont need to give up even more picks to move up to get him. if hes there at 6 then maybe consider him, but do not give up even more picks to get him

skinsfan_nn
03-19-2007, 09:26 PM
You mean the way the Bears great defense showed up and won the superbowl for chicago? Oh wait.....


You must mean the wanna be GREAT D that didn't show up? Oh....?

skinsfan69
03-19-2007, 11:28 PM
It seems like every year there's a WR/TE whose workout makes everybody freak out like this...

2007 - Calvin Johnson
2006 - Vernon Davis
2005 - Braylon Edwards
2004 - Larry Fitzgerald / Kellen Winslow Jr
2003 - Charles Rogers / Andre Johnson

And for every Larry Fitz, Andre Johnson or Roy Williams there are plenty players like Charles Rogers, Mike Williams, Bryant Johnson, Ashlie Lelie, David Terrell, Koren Robinson, Rod Gardner, Peter Warrick, David Boston, Michael Westbrook or Desmond Howard who are high 1st round picks that have been busts or have had disappointing careers.

If you could go back to 1996 and have the Jets # 1 overall pick.. would you choose Keyshawn Johnson? Or would you rather have Simeon Rice at 3 Ogden at 4 or a better WR Marvin Harrison at 19... How about Ray Lewis at 26. If you went back in time and told the Jets that Harrison was going to be a better WR then Keyshawn they would have called you a fool.

Back in 2005 it seemed like 75% of Skins fans out there wanted us o draft Mike Williams... (Too bad we weren't talking Shawne Merriman or Demarcus Ware). I hope this year we aren't seduced by the sexy WR at the top of the draft and trade up to pick CJ... Although if he somehow lasts to 6 we HAVE to take him!

Good post. Where is Taylor Jacobs when you need him???

Smurf85
03-20-2007, 12:09 AM
This isn't going to happen,but i want CJ bad.

GTripp0012
03-20-2007, 12:14 AM
Bunch of well thought out posts on this thread so far. This is why I come here.

But even if we were to add Calvin Johnson to the roster, his biggest asset would be blocking for portis on outside runs. After all, BOTH Cooley and Moss are more dangerous than Johnson with the ball in their hands. Moss is lightning quick and Cooley runs with a bunch of power and balance.

What do we know about CJ after the catch? Not very much, that's what.

I would much rather see the ball in the hands of Moss and Cooley, and being run by Portis and Betts than going downfield with a 28% of completion to Calvin Johnson.

Because damn if it's unsucccessful and we have to punt...we are never going to catch the other team in score with our defense.

FRPLG
03-20-2007, 12:31 AM
It seems like every year there's a WR/TE whose workout makes everybody freak out like this...

2007 - Calvin Johnson
2006 - Vernon Davis
2005 - Braylon Edwards
2004 - Larry Fitzgerald / Kellen Winslow Jr
2003 - Charles Rogers / Andre Johnson

And for every Larry Fitz, Andre Johnson or Roy Williams there are plenty players like Charles Rogers, Mike Williams, Bryant Johnson, Ashlie Lelie, David Terrell, Koren Robinson, Rod Gardner, Peter Warrick, David Boston, Michael Westbrook or Desmond Howard who are high 1st round picks that have been busts or have had disappointing careers.

If you could go back to 1996 and have the Jets # 1 overall pick.. would you choose Keyshawn Johnson? Or would you rather have Simeon Rice at 3 Ogden at 4 or a better WR Marvin Harrison at 19... How about Ray Lewis at 26. If you went back in time and told the Jets that Harrison was going to be a better WR then Keyshawn they would have called you a fool.

Back in 2005 it seemed like 75% of Skins fans out there wanted us o draft Mike Williams... (Too bad we weren't talking Shawne Merriman or Demarcus Ware). I hope this year we aren't seduced by the sexy WR at the top of the draft and trade up to pick CJ... Although if he somehow lasts to 6 we HAVE to take him!

Some good points. In terms of busts it seem WRs are much more suscptible than others. On top of that even good WRs almost always take time to settle in. Very few come in and even make more than an average impact.

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