Defensive Tackle

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BeastsoftheNFCeast
03-12-2007, 05:43 PM
In my opinion, we definately need a defensive end, Daniels is crap and is only getting worse due to his age. I dont know what to think about defensive tackle though. Griffin is good, Saleve'a is crap, and Golston is hovering around average. Is Golston good enough to be considered a starter? I think with his play last year, the answer is no, but he is young so he very well might develop into a quality starter. Should we address defensive tackle in this offseason, or let it be and hope it plays out well?

PorterHouse
03-12-2007, 05:49 PM
I dont think resignin Boschetti is the answer. And if we dont get someone in there to eat up blocks, Fletcher will be unproductive. We definately need to adress the d-line. But as far as Salavea bein crap, I cant force myself to agree with you there. Goldston has a real good upside being young and all.

SmootSmack
03-12-2007, 05:49 PM
Why'd you title this thread "Defensive Tackle" and then start with "In my opinion, we definately need a defensive end". Interesting

As for your question, I think a strong DT can have a bigger effect on the entire defense more so than a DE can.

Big C
03-12-2007, 06:17 PM
a new DT who can absorb blockers will take pressure off of everyone on the defense. they will free up the linebackers to make plays, allow the defensive ends to rush easier, thus helping the secondary. a big DT is twice as important to us right now as a new DE.

beatdallas
03-12-2007, 07:51 PM
I'll take either one. The d-line play last season was terrible.

stu_nna
03-12-2007, 08:29 PM
Hmmm, but we are stronger at the tackle spot than the end spot. Overall I think a tackle would help decrease rushing yards. Yet to effectivley pressure the quarterback everydown a end makes more sense. I'd prefer an elite tackle, but this year the more pressing need is at the end spot.

Big C
03-12-2007, 08:39 PM
Hmmm, but we are stronger at the tackle spot than the end spot. Overall I think a tackle would help decrease rushing yards. Yet to effectivley pressure the quarterback everydown a end makes more sense. I'd prefer an elite tackle, but this year the more pressing need is at the end spot.

i disagree, i think our DT's are weaker than our DE's. griffen had a bad year last year and is getting a free pass from many because of how good he was a few years ago, and golston did well for a low round rookie but griffen and golston are the same style players, penetrators. neither absorbed blockers and our defense was badly exposed. if we go into the season with the same tackles we are in huge trouble, we can get by with our DE's. a new DT will improve daniels' play, while i doubt a new DE will improve our DT's play. we will still be destroyed by the run

stu_nna
03-12-2007, 08:47 PM
i disagree, i think our DT's are weaker than our DE's. griffen had a bad year last year and is getting a free pass from many because of how good he was a few years ago, and golston did well for a low round rookie but griffen and golston are the same style players, penetrators. neither absorbed blockers and our defense was badly exposed. if we go into the season with the same tackles we are in huge trouble, we can get by with our DE's. a new DT will improve daniels' play, while i doubt a new DE will improve our DT's play. we will still be destroyed by the run
I keep thinking with a middle linebacker known to make tackles, and a with Griffin and Salavae healthy we will have different results. So, i still belive that Cornelius is the real deal.
We gave up alot of rushing yards last year i think Fletcher will really help improve in that area. Yet still without getting pressure on the quarterback our secondary gets ate up. Also with a good pass rush i think alot of opions on Los (carlos) will change. More pressure equals more turnovers, more turnovers lead to more points and a healthier defense. Whadyathink?

jdlea
03-12-2007, 08:52 PM
I keep thinking with a middle linebacker known to make tackles, and a with Griffin and Salavae healthy we will have different results. So, i still belive that Cornelius is the real deal.
We gave up alot of rushing yards last year i think Fletcher will really help improve in that area. Yet still without getting pressure on the quarterback our secondary gets ate up. Also with a good pass rush i think alot of opions on Los (carlos) will change. More pressure equals more turnovers, more turnovers lead to more points and a healthier defense. Whadyathink?

I agree with the general theme, I only disagree with pretty much everyone's assessment of Joe Salave'a to me the guy has never been more than an average player. I like the hard nose, bust your ass guy as much as anyone, but the fact is he's just not that good. He never has been. They need to replace him and they need to replace Griffin in my opinion. I'm sick of guys who can't stay on the field...*cough* Springs and Griffin *cough*

70Chip
03-12-2007, 09:13 PM
This argument has been on going in the Draft Forum. I have taken the position that we need a DE more than a DT although both could use improvement. I think I part company with many in that I rate Golston as an adequate starter and they do not. Also, others take the position that because we spent so much on Carter we have to hope he pans out. I say even if Carter plays better, Daniels and Wynn are over the hill.

Most of the argument is brought on by the 6th overall and wether to take Branch or Adams. My view is that they should split the difference, trade down, and get one of each. However, if they keep the 6th overall, they should take Adams or whoever they rate highest at DE.

My botton line is that 1. We need to improve the DL. 2. This is a multi-year process. 3. Defensive End is the more immediate need.

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