we still need a guard

Because is the easiest position to replace in football. Why bring in someone now and overpay when we can wait until guys are a little more desperate and get a better value? The difference between a guywe sign now for a good amount of money and someone we sign in 2 or 3 weeks will be minimal and the guwe sign in 2 or 3 weeks will come at half the price. That is if we don't decide to draft someone who'll be even cheaper.

I swear. We finally show some restraint in FA and half the people want to know why. We spend a lot in FA dn the other half want to know why. I guess there really is no pleasing everyone.


FRPLG - I am of the camp that thought the FO has been overpaying for the last couple of years and it is refreshing to see the FO being quiet this offseason (although I believe the main reason we didn't overspend was because the cap was limiting us more than other teams). I think the Skins are waiting until the draft to see what to do at Guard - whether they draft one or pick up one in free agency. To me I think some of the best pickups are the ones you make when players run out of options and sign a contract to avoid unemployment. A perfect example is what happened to the Deshawn Stevenson with the Wizards in the NBA. Deshawn got a little greedy and wanted a huge contract - the Magic declined and Ernie Grunfeld (a smart GM) let go of bricklauyer Jared Jeffries and got Stevenson on the cheap because there weren't many places that Stenvenson could get a contract from.
Maybe the guard from the Ravens asked a little too much from the Redskins and someone in the FO said lets wait and either he will drop his price or we get someone in the draft - in my book this was a smart move in that he is coming off a major injury.

I think if we are looking for a veteran stopgap (like Mulitato), we may as well wait for a post-June 1 cut (which Mulitato is, thanks to the NFL's "Wayback Machine" cutting policy). There will be a number of players who are good that will be available for vet min salaries that can start while youngsters are being groomed, so we don't need to get into a bidding war for a 30+ year old offensive lineman.

If there is anyone who thinks they know about O-Line play:

How hard is it to switch from Tackle to Guard? Could most Tackles do it, could some, or is it difficult? I think Jacoby moved to guard at the end of his career. What I'm getting at is this: re-sign Wade and move Jansen to LG. Or move Wade to LG. Is this un-realistic? If so, why? It seems to me if you can play Tackle you should be able to play Guard.

If there is anyone who thinks they know about O-Line play:

How hard is it to switch from Tackle to Guard? Could most Tackles do it, could some, or is it difficult? I think Jacoby moved to guard at the end of his career. What I'm getting at is this: re-sign Wade and move Jansen to LG. Or move Wade to LG. Is this un-realistic? If so, why? It seems to me if you can play Tackle you should be able to play Guard.

I think if they did this I would keep Jansen at Tackle and move Wade to Guard - that way we only have 1 new player on the starting line and less disruption on building continuity.

I believe if Wade does not get a large contract from some other team I think it would be in the Redskins best interest to sign him as a backup tackle and get the guard from elsewhere - the main reason being is both Samuels and Jansen are getting up in years and both have had some injuries and this would provide solid depth in case one of them goes down - is it realistic to expect both Samuels and Jansen to stay healthy the entire year for 2 seasons in a row?

I've heard talk of moving Jansen to left guard and Todd Wade to right tackle. There are two questions that need to be answered: is Todd Wade still good enough? Can Jensen make the switch? If both answers are in the affirmative, it would seem to me that we could save big bucks by only shopping for a backup. I'd like to see virtually all of the spending go to the defense and #6 used for a DE and our second pick used to find a DT to compete with Golston.

i understand your concern and it is a valid one i believe the skins r just takin their time to see whats available we have 48 more days till the draft where i believe well see the skins wheel and deal quite a bit and find us a serviceable if not great OG.....im kinda glad were not just jumpin in with both feet right away feels kinda nice....


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If there is anyone who thinks they know about O-Line play:

How hard is it to switch from Tackle to Guard? Could most Tackles do it, could some, or is it difficult? I think Jacoby moved to guard at the end of his career. What I'm getting at is this: re-sign Wade and move Jansen to LG. Or move Wade to LG. Is this un-realistic? If so, why? It seems to me if you can play Tackle you should be able to play Guard.

tackles are supposed to be better than guards, and need more foot speed/agility to turn the corner vs DEs, whereas OGs just kinda need to stand there in space.

they're still different positions and take a while to adjust to, but, in general, most decent OTs could play OG relatively well.

We have some of the best OL in the league. Just like we plugged Dockery in there as a rookie and didn't miss a beat, we will do it again. We should be able to draft a top five DT or DE at number six but, if we trade down to aquire another pick to draft a G, perhaps we won't be able to draft a difference maker DT or DE like Branch or Jamaal Anderson are a lock to be.

Would that it wee so that the Redskins had "some of the best OL in the league". Sadly, that just doesn't hold up to rational analysis. :nono:

Is Rabach one of the top ten starting centers in the NFL? I doubt it. He may be in the top ten in the NFC, but even that is debatable. There are 32 starting centers; he's below 15 on the list. :nono:

Randy Thomas is a solid offensive guard. Is he one of the outstanding guards in the league? No. In fact, he's not one of the top three offensive guards in the NFC East. He's better than average and a fine player, but "one of the best" he is not. :nono:

Chris Samuels is one of the top ten left tackles in the NFL. He isn't nearly as good as all of his Pro-Bowl appearances might lead you to believe he is. He's not THE dominant left tackle in the NFC. But he's very good. :biggthump

Jon Jansen used to be the best OL on the Skins but injuries - and maybe Father Time - have reduced his effectivness for the past two years. If it was "injuries" that did him in, we should see a huge improvement from that side of the OL next year; it it was Father Time, things will only get worse. I don't know which one it was and no one will really know until the actual season - not the exhibition season - begins. :)

Bottom Line: The Skins OL is OK; there are more than a few that are worse and there are more than a few that are better. And blind faith in Joe Bugeol to "work his magic" is just that; blind faith. He's been here for 3 seasons and the OL is only marginally better now than it was in his first season.:twocents:

i kind of disagree. not with your analysis, but with the results. i believe you do not need 5 pro bowlers, instead 5 guys that will do what needs to be done. without seeking glory, and not afraid to do the dirty work, the things that go unnoticed.