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chrisl4064
03-11-2007, 01:19 PM
ok, apparently nobody agrees with my view on fred smoot and how i think he is a penalty machine. however, why are we still shopping for corners? why are there rumors of us getting rid of springs? is carlos rogers a #2? im sorry fellas, but im not a big fan of bringing players back after we have already gotten rid of them. i dont care what gibbs has said about him. ive seen him play. we obviously will see what happens when the season starts. but dont sit there and tell me (as some of you have) that he will be fine with being a #3. if thats the case expect a little bit of bitching on his side and rightly so.


if you guys are right and he shines then so be it. my comment came out of disgust that we havent done shit with the D-line yet. ive seen kerney go places and other free agents and im a little pissed we havent fixed anything with the D-line which imo is our weakest point.

go ahead and ban my ass if smoot leads the team in picks, it wont happen.
i would rather have made moves on the D-line first.

skinsguy
03-11-2007, 01:41 PM
ok, apparently nobody agrees with my view on fred smoot and how i think he is a penalty machine. however, why are we still shopping for corners?

Depth. Smoot is a solid #2 corner and Rogers hasn't proven himself yet. Smoot is still a huge upgrade from what we had last season, and if we can keep Springs, then having Smoot, Rogers, Springs, and Taylor in the secondary shold be an upgrade for us.

skinsfan_nn
03-11-2007, 01:50 PM
ok, apparently nobody agrees with my view on fred smoot and how i think he is a penalty machine. however, why are we still shopping for corners? why are there rumors of us getting rid of springs? is carlos rogers a #2? im sorry fellas, but im not a big fan of bringing players back after we have already gotten rid of them. i dont care what gibbs has said about him. ive seen him play. we obviously will see what happens when the season starts. but dont sit there and tell me (as some of you have) that he will be fine with being a #3. if thats the case expect a little bit of bitching on his side and rightly so.


if you guys are right and he shines then so be it. my comment came out of disgust that we havent done shit with the D-line yet. ive seen kerney go places and other free agents and im a little pissed we havent fixed anything with the D-line which imo is our weakest point.

go ahead and ban my ass if smoot leads the team in picks, it wont happen.
i would rather have made moves on the D-line first.

If I'm not mistaken I think the first two moves we made were FLETCH & SMOOT, is that the O-LINE?

We did start with the defense were we need the most help, and hopefully will make another move or so on that side of the ball in FA the rest will be in the DRAFT (DE/DT).

I'm not sure what you were watching with SMOOT? However, most people with just a little bit of football knowledge including Coach Joe Gibbs, see a decent corner that we need badly. He has great potential to have an outstanding year!

Your point makes ZERO sense in my opinion! :spank:

That Guy
03-11-2007, 01:56 PM
im sorry fellas, but im not a big fan of bringing players back after we have already gotten rid of them.

go ahead and ban my ass if smoot leads the team in picks, it wont happen.
i would rather have made moves on the D-line first.

first, we didn't get rid of him, he got away with a contract that was front loaded.

second, what move was there to make at D-line? kerney was the closest thing to a game changer, and he's 30 and coming off a bad year. We have lots of 30+ DLinemen, and the right move is getting a young guy that could be good and stay around a while. that's what the draft and that #6 pick are for.

dmek25
03-11-2007, 02:31 PM
Well heres my problem with what your saying, does Jeremiah Trotter ring a bell, he was an average player as a Redskin, but a dominant MLB for the Eagles, NFL players have a comfort level just like any other human being. Fred Smoot openly has said he didnt like being in Minnesota, hes a Redskin, those were Joe Gibbs words, and i have a feeling that Joe Gibbs is a better judge of talent than you are. Fred Smoot is going to surprise alot of people, the sad thing is it seems you have already forgotten after two short years, that Fred Smoot became a fan favorite, not for his name, but for his heart and his play on the field. I welcome back Fred Smoot, and will be right there saying "I told you so" when he plays like the old Fred Smoot, the Redskin Fred Smoot.
while i like smooty coming back, you assessment of trotter is way off base. trotter is good in the eagles system. but in my eyes one of the most over rated players in this league.

Crazyhorse1
03-11-2007, 03:15 PM
yeah, we need springs to be the #1, cause rogers and smoot probably can't handle it.


but seriously, smoot played with a broken sternum... a BROKEN STERNUM! throwing up during half times cause of the pain, then coming back out and playing well. He had a couple bad years in minnesota, but very little of that got back here, because when he was here, he played hard, even when we were losing.

I like Smoot fine and admire his playing hurt, but, realistically, I don't expect him to be an answer to our burning questions. He'll be adequate and add depth but doesn't alleviate our need for a first rate CB. We still need a first rate cb, a good offensive tackle, and a five star DE or DT to get to the playoffs. Further, we have to acquire the above without giving up a good player.

hooskins
03-11-2007, 03:17 PM
I really think alot of you guys have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

EXoffender
03-11-2007, 04:19 PM
When Springs missed games, Rodgers played pretty solid covering opposing teams' number one WR. Even without Springs (with the assuption we'll sign or draft a CB to play the nickel spot) we should be ok.

GoSkins!
03-11-2007, 05:04 PM
you know, I think that Brittany Spears would benefit from rehab.

skinsfan_nn
03-11-2007, 05:09 PM
When Springs missed games, Rodgers played pretty solid covering opposing teams' number one WR. Even without Springs (with the assuption we'll sign or draft a CB to play the nickel spot) we should be ok.

I disagree. Rodgers played aweful against #1 WR almost all year. He got burned time after time. He really regressed last season, in my opinion.

I don't think anyone is real clear on where SS stands at this point, healty it would be nice to have him back. With the possible Fisher signing if we do end up with: Springs,Smoot,Rodgers,Fisher, Jimoh. Not sure we will make any more moves at CB.

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