Bram Weinstein: stay put at No. 6

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MTK
03-09-2007, 11:01 AM
As for Springs I find it funny that people are reluctant to part with him. I think Springs and Bly are in the same class of corner at this point in their careers but the big difference right now is Springs' inability to stay healthy.

MTK
03-09-2007, 11:02 AM
f-ck Bly...we need to do a straight draft pick trade with Denver in which they compensate us according to the chart. That would mean all 4 of Denvers 1st day picks. Denver wants to toss Bly into the deal and overstate his value and rip us off in the process. If we get a 1st & 2nd and Bly for the 6th pick then we basically spent two 3rd round picks on a 30 year old CB! That trade is awful as reported!

If Bly is in the deal they would have to add a 3rd rounder in addition to the 2nd and the swap of #1's.

redsk1
03-09-2007, 11:03 AM
I agree w/ a couple things but one crucial thing is being left off. SS won't take a paycut so his CAP # would be huge if we kept him. He won't restructure. Bly's deal might be a little more cap friendly, well at least for right now.

To get a quality, top cb in Bly and still have a 21st pick and a 2nd/3rd + a potential SS trade for a pick or two might be doable.

FWIW, i'm hoping SS & the skins can work something out. SS, Smoot, Rogers...I could live w/ that secondary.

That Guy
03-09-2007, 11:05 AM
it really depends on the deal. if the broncos give 1,2,3 + bly for the #6, and you can trade springs on top of that for another 2 or 3, then that still gives you a chance to trade up for okoye, or take carriker, as well as taking another DE (because of the great depth) or OG in the 2nd and an OG/TE/etc in the 3rd.

if the deal is only bly, pick 21, and a 3rd rounder, then no, it doesn't make sense, cause it's not a great offer.

RobH4413
03-09-2007, 11:06 AM
The again, if we could hold on to Springs and draft a stud lineman, that could do wonders for our pass rush, and our secondary.

I tend to agree that we need to trade down, but I don't want to go crazy about getting Bly. He's really not that good, and If I can hold on to Springs, albeit an unhappy one, I think we could be in good shape.

But I guess Springs would stay healthy for a whole 5 games, so theres always that to consider.

SmootSmack
03-09-2007, 11:10 AM
Ultimately I don't think it's about Bly. It's about getting more draft picks

redsk1
03-09-2007, 11:40 AM
We have too many needs to stay put at #6. Denver seems hot and heavy about trading up so I say milk them for everything we can. Switching #1's with them and adding a 2nd and a 3rd would be huge. I really don't see what there is to hate about a deal like that.

Agree. The skins need to remember Denver is the one who is more desparate though. They have a corner that doesn't want to play for them and they want to trade up. Now, when push comes to shove i betcha Bly would play out 2007 w/ the Broncos. He's playing the game though.

Misterbillysells
03-09-2007, 11:58 AM
Does anyone know who Denver is trying to trade up to get at the 6th spot in the draft?

stu_nna
03-09-2007, 11:59 AM
A different spin on things. With a coaching staff that has Joe Bugel, and Gregg Williams, the redskins are very effiecient at being able to groom mid level talent based on draft positon to great results. ie Dockery, Captain Choas Chris Cooley, Montgomery.
That being said, the more second and third round picks we get will probably translate into a starter, not to mention a possible pro bowl mention. To many holes to draft this high. Lets utilize this staff that knows how to get the best out of there draft talent.

celts32
03-09-2007, 12:07 PM
If Bly is in the deal they would have to add a 3rd rounder in addition to the 2nd and the swap of #1's.

I am okay with taking Bly(even though I don't want him) as long as they still get a #1, #2, & #3. The Redskins need at least 2 extra draft picks to go all the way down to 21. That's a huge drop...teams have given 1st day draft picks just to move up a spot or two within the top 10. I have a bad feeling that Denver is going to pull the whool over the skins eyes again...and they are going to use Bly to confuse the issue and pull it off.

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