PFT Rumor: Redskins to Fire Personnel Department After Draft

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freddyg12
03-01-2007, 10:41 AM
And yes he is Bo's son, for those wondering

We need to keep that dude for his name, wonder if they call him Shem Shem?

freddyg12
03-01-2007, 10:45 AM
Yup. He has to and he does. But it's the the scouting department that does the research and leg work. Just like any job, upper management (Gibbs and company) analyzes the information that the lower lever employees have put together.

Like I've said before though, so many people like to bitch and moan about our front office and want to see changes but they don't really want any substantial changes. They just want a stylish change, i.e. they just want to see the title General Manager in front of someone's name. Even if everything else stays the same. But the real changes have to come at the bottom, not the top.

It reminds me of the Wizards. They're doing really well now and getting good talent. But what people don't know is that Michael Jordan had a lot to do with that while he was President of the team. He completely overhauled the scouting department. When he got there there were like 2-3 scouts total, and none for overseas markets. He added college and pro scouts across the world, set up a checks and balances system for evaluation. And the team is better for it.

Didn't know that about the Wiz, I just thought his best moves were cutting Howard et al.
This past offseason really brought it home that there are structural flaws w/the team's player acquisition process. I don't care so much about the GM position as I do having quality staff & someone who's accountable, which is Gibbs. Maybe Gibbs will be our MJ in that much of his changes won't come to fruition till after he's gone.
I'm all for overhauling the scouting dept. but it sucks that there's already word on the streets.

JWsleep
03-01-2007, 10:49 AM
PFT... If you had 500 monkeys with 500 computers hooked to the internet, you'd get about as good info.

But this is the slow times, so: sure, fire the scouts. But GW was sold on AA, so it's pretty hard to blame Vinny and co for that. Still, brining in someone with the balls and brains to really do the job may help. Also, I agree that it's hard to fault the cap guy here. He's proven that if we want to overspend for an underachieving FA, we can do so at will.

gabe1984
03-01-2007, 11:16 AM
And yes he is Bo's son, for those wondering

I was wondering, nice fun fact TAFKAS.

Daseal
03-01-2007, 11:42 AM
But what people don't know is that Michael Jordan had a lot to do with that while he was President of the team. He completely overhauled the scouting department. When he got there there were like 2-3 scouts total, and none for overseas markets. He added college and pro scouts across the world, set up a checks and balances system for evaluation. And the team is better for it.
He also chased RIP Hamilton out of town.

Can anyone explain to me what Eric Schaffer does and what he's done in the past? I think the first thing we need to do is take the head coach out of the personel department. It hasn't worked for other teams and it's not working for us. Coaches coach, front offices scout and draft. I'm not saying there shouldn't be communication, or Gibbs saying "I'm looking for a WR, but I need someone with some size." for example.

SmootSmack
03-01-2007, 11:58 AM
There's a lot more to the Hamilton story...but this isn't a Wizards fan site

hesscl34
03-01-2007, 11:58 AM
ProFootballTalk.com -- The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet (http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm)

'SKINS TO CLEAN HOUSE AFTER THE DRAFT?

There's talk in league circles that the Washington Redskins will clean out the personnel department following the 2007 draft.

It's presently unclear whether V.P. of football operations Vinny Cerrato would be caught up in the rumored purge. Cerrato was fired by the team during the failed Marty Schottenheimer experiment, and re-hired after Marty was Schott-canned.

Per the 2006 NFL Record & Fact Book, the front office also includes director of pro personnel Louis Riddick, director of college scouting Scott Campbell, pro scouts Terry Ray and Donnie Warren, college scouts Mike Faulkiner, Tim Gribble, Shemy Schembechler, and Jim Zeches, national scouts Russ Bolinger and Joel Patten, and director of football administrtion Eric Schaffer.

I wonder who people will scapegoat after Vinny is gone?

Don't let the door hit you in the ass.... SEE YA!

Monkeydad
03-01-2007, 12:05 PM
This would be completely idiotic.

Wouldn't you fire them before the draft and let someone competent pick the players that you are going to make or break your upcoming season!?!?!?!?!?

You'd think so!

MTK
03-01-2007, 12:18 PM
You'd think so!

Not really, firing the entire dept right before the draft is what would be idiotic. It takes time to put a scouting dept together.

FRPLG
03-01-2007, 12:23 PM
There's a lot more to the Hamilton story...but this isn't a Wizards fan site

I'd love to hear it although I believe he is greatly overrated in league circles.

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