Yet Another #$(&^ing Ramsey Thread...Gotta Keep Up With the #$(&^#ing Brunell Threads

You can't compare Ramsey's career to Brunell's in any category.

Well let me refresh your memory, monday night against the jets under SS one of the jets came on the blitz he ducked under him the player just missed taking his head off and then yanking him down from behind he then threw and completed a strike 40 yards downfield, there you go.

To nitpick, I think he dodged LB Sam Cowart.

To nitpick even more, it was a Thursday night.

To nitpick even more, it was a Thursday night.

I stand corrected. lol

I know he actually out ran Sam Cowart for a big firstdown in that game, I don't remember who the player was that over shot him on the blitz.

As for arm strength, Campbell has no where's near the arm that Ramsey has, Cambpell despite what some may think does not possess a big arm he has maybe slightly above average arm strength.

... The fact is no one on our roster could make the Jets team [other than Campbell], they don't waste thier time with has beens and never been's[.]


All I know is that Portis said that with Campbell's arm strength they should be having someone running the deep post every play. Sounds like he's got more than enough arm for the job. Plus, I saw more than a little sizzle on several throws. Strong as Ramsey's? Maybe, Maybe not. If you've got something definitive, I'll be glad to look at it.

As for the Jets not wasting their time on "never been's", they did, in fact, trade a sixth round choice to us for a "never been".

As for "better than Pennington" - TAKE THE DAMN JOB! THAT'S WHAT PENNINGTON DID! Right out of Ramsey's great arm and tough as nails attitude.

I agree SC... I think the most promising part of what little we've seen of Campbell so far is the way he handles adversity. He just doesn't get rattled.

I never saw that from Ramsey, he definitely looked rattled when things were going bad. With Campbell you can't tell if he just threw a pick or a 60 yard TD.

I gotta disagree. I remember when he was in his rookie season and Spurrier pulled Mathews to throw Ramsey in down 13 or 19 to the Giants, he leads a TD drive, the D gives one up, he leads another, and the D gets him the ball back. McCants fumbles the game away. I think he could have been a great leader. I don't think him getting the shit kicked out of him for the first few years of his career helped and then his confidence was destroyed when they brought in Brunell. I think he should have been able to overcome that, but he couldn't, that's his problem, IMO. I think he had everything I would look for in an NFL QB, (Mort agreed. He said he has 4 out of the 5 tools you need and he only lacked wheels) however, I think he needed to be the man and learn. He didn't really get that opportunity.

I know, we've all heard, "he never got a fair shake." I'm not saying it wasn't necessarily fair, but young QB's need to be able to trot out there and learn how to play without the fear of getting pulled. Kinda like the way Campbell did at the end of last season, now he's the unquestioned starter. Ramsey never got that chance. Regardless of the circumstances, if he were playing better it wouldn't have been an issue, but I just don't think he was ever allowed to become confident in the NFL.

You can't compare Ramsey's career to Brunell's in any category.

As a far as thier Redskin career goes thats an easy comparison. Infact I can make a better case for Ramsey a young inexperienced player out performing seasoned vet.

I gotta disagree. I remember when he was in his rookie season and Spurrier pulled Mathews to throw Ramsey in down 13 or 19 to the Giants, he leads a TD drive, the D gives one up, he leads another, and the D gets him the ball back. McCants fumbles the game away. I think he could have been a great leader. I don't think him getting the shit kicked out of him for the first few years of his career helped and then his confidence was destroyed when they brought in Brunell. I think he should have been able to overcome that, but he couldn't, that's his problem, IMO. I think he had everything I would look for in an NFL QB, (Mort agreed. He said he has 4 out of the 5 tools you need and he only lacked wheels) however, I think he needed to be the man and learn. He didn't really get that opportunity.

I know, we've all heard, "he never got a fair shake." I'm not saying it wasn't necessarily fair, but young QB's need to be able to trot out there and learn how to play without the fear of getting pulled. Kinda like the way Campbell did at the end of last season, now he's the unquestioned starter. Ramsey never got that chance. Regardless of the circumstances, if he were playing better it wouldn't have been an issue, but I just don't think he was ever allowed to become confident in the NFL.

Well said!

As for arm strength, Campbell has no where's near the arm that Ramsey has, Cambpell despite what some may think does not possess a big arm he has maybe slightly above average arm strength.


This statement here, in a microcosm, shows why it is dumb to even discuss this stuff with you. You don't know what you are talking about. To say "no where's near" is a gross overstatement and to say "slightly" is to show how misguided you are. I'm done.

To nitpick even more than AMD, it's "of course" not "of coarse"