Gaines Adams: Dream Come True, being a REDSKIN

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Daseal
02-26-2007, 12:29 AM
I think Adams has the highest risk vs reward. I think he's one of the more riskier picks, but I think he has a bigger upside than Branch/Anderson.

That Guy
02-26-2007, 12:41 AM
I heard a rumor from a pretty decent source, don't know how valid it is though, that the Cowboys were offering the #22 and Julius Jones apparently in an effort to move up to get Adams

trade up with who though? it makes sense since barber seemed to outplay jones (man, no one loves those jones boys)..

as for kearse and freeney, both are faster (freeney ran what? a 4.4... beats the crap out of a 4.6, but he's worthless against the run, just like carter et al).

skinsfan_nn
02-26-2007, 08:26 AM
If the Redskins opt for Branch, it's conceivable he could start right away. In three seasons with Michigan, Branch -- who stood at 6-foot-5? and weighed in at 324 pounds at the combine -- didn't produce impressive numbers (61 tackles and nine sacks). But teams are impressed by his athleticism and versatility -- he played defensive end, nose tackle and defensive tackle in college.
"He's a big, athletic man and explosive," Detroit Lions coach Rod Marinelli said. "He's also strong enough at the nose position and still gives you the athleticism that you like. He's a special inside player."
The knock on Branch, despite his athleticism, has been his lack of production.
"He should be a dominating player and was not at times," Kiper said. "He's a work in progress."
Branch doesn't have a preference on which defensive line position he plays. But if he is picked by the Redskins, he will find a home in the trenches.
"I'm a great run stopper," he said. "I have great explosiveness, and I really go to the point of attack. I feel I'm able to do pretty well on the pass rush or flushing the quarterback outside to the defensive ends."
The Redskins have several options if they go with a defensive end. As many as five could go in the first round. Adams and Anderson have been tabbed by many as the top pass rushers.
Adams, a former eight-man high school football player, is 6-4 and 258 pounds and relies on his speed to get to the passer. Anderson, an early entry player, is bigger (6-5, 275) and was a prolific playmaker last season, recording 65 tackles (19? for lost yardage) and 13? sacks. Adams had 62 tackles (17? for lost yardage) and 12? sacks.
"Anderson will get the edge because he was more consistent," Kiper said. "Adams had his huge games and highlight-film plays, but play in and play out Anderson was better and was more consistent game-to-game. But it's just a slight edge."
Said NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock: "Some people think Anderson is a top five or top 10 pick. I see some inconsistencies in his game. His motor isn't there all the time."
Whomever the Redskins take with the sixth pick likely will be the first defensive player chosen.
"That's the thing that keeps a player going, to be that first defensive player chosen," Adams said. "That's why I've put a lot of time into working out, to hopefully put myself in that position."

Today Times, looks like Adams/Anderson have much stronger numbers.

Branch is big that's the upside, numbers not as strong?

Hog1
02-26-2007, 08:36 AM
With bigger, faster, players, anyone have info as to the longevity of the players who go 300 plus? Are guy's that play at........like 325 having shorter careers than like guys who play same position at 290. More joint, knee problems? Same?

dmek25
02-26-2007, 09:55 AM
wasnt dave butz 300lbs? it seemed like he played forever

GTripp0012
02-26-2007, 10:16 AM
I've been back and forth on the issue of "which DE would I rather have." At this point, I'm pretty solidly in Gaines' corner. Scouts have 4 years of film on him compared to 2-3 on Anderson, so their projection on him is bound to be more accurate. Anderson has the biggest bust potential of the 3 big guys we are looking at.

Still, it would be a mistake to pass on Alan Branch, espicially in our situaiton. Drafting Gaines Adams is essentially giving up on Andre Carter.

TheMalcolmConnection
02-26-2007, 10:29 AM
Or does it mean we're relying more heavily on our LBs? It's possible to have two speed guys on the edges if the LB play is good. I think Marcus, Rocky/Lemar, and hopefully Fletcher is going to be plenty of LB to go around.

skinsfan69
02-26-2007, 10:37 AM
Having two 260lb DE's would not work. Anyone remember the now retired 50 year old Bob Whitfield pushing around Carter the last week of the season?

724Skinsfan
02-26-2007, 10:49 AM
Having two 260lb DE's would not work. Anyone remember the now retired 50 year old Bob Whitfield pushing around Carter the last week of the season?

I remember this year's Super Bowl champs having a 245 lb guy (Mathis) on one end and a 268 lb guy (Freeney) on the other. That seemed to work out. Our 265 lb guy (Carter) and 290 lb guy (Daniels) didn't seem to benefit from the extra weight.

Sometimes looking at just the numbers isn't the best way to analyze effectiveness. Ask yourself if Greg Williams' scheme better utilizes quick, pass-rushing Ends or bigger, run-stopping Ends?

I don't know the answer to that, by the way.

Weight info provided by NFL.com. Not responsible for inaccuracies obtained from source.

artmonkforhallofamein07
02-26-2007, 11:07 AM
I heard a rumor from a pretty decent source, don't know how valid it is though, that the Cowboys were offering the #22 and Julius Jones apparently in an effort to move up to get Adams

TO WHO?

Not us I take it.

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