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Rajmahal33 02-24-2007, 06:39 PM I agree that a suitable backup can be found for Portis, but thats not even the issue. If we are gonna shop around Betts, it should be for something that this team needs. Thats either draft picks and/or and upgrade on the defensive line or secondary. Our linebacking core doesn't need that much help, esp not enuff to sacrifice our #6 pick AND betts. Like ppl were saying Betts stock is sky high right now and IF we are gonna shop him we had better get a lot more than what we would for that lopsided Vilma trade...
On another note, as good as he may be I always thought a guys whose last name is Vilma, sounded too close to Wilma and i don't know if i can cheer for such an effeminate sounding name. haha
EXoffender 02-24-2007, 06:45 PM The head scratcher is that we traded our 3rd rounder for Duckett. It makes sense to try to aquire more picks involving Betts since his stock is as high as it's going to get.
RobH4413 02-24-2007, 08:39 PM Not advocating the move but I would think that they will find someone serviceable to backup Clinton. Who knows, it may be someone that doesn't fumble...
This is true... I just don't want portis having to take a full load. If we can find a good back-up then I can see the trade happening.
SmootSmack 02-24-2007, 09:51 PM I'd rather keep Betts, but if we're going to trade him...Betts and the #6 to Houston for the #8 and the #40.
NFLeurope 02-24-2007, 10:08 PM I'd rather keep Betts, but if we're going to trade him...Betts and the #6 to Houston for the #8 and the #40.
See, i dont really understand why you would like this trade...
Here you are suggesting to trade down from number 6 to number 8, which in itself could command a 2nd or 3rd round pick...depending on how badly the team wanted to move up to get a player available at #6.
And then trading betts away for a 2nd round pick...
So if you count the value of going from 6th overall to 8th overall...then you are essentially suggesting we trade Betts and a 2nd or 3rd rd pick (which is the value we could get for dropping from 6th to 8th) for the texans 2nd rounder... I dont really see how this would be a beneficial trade from our angle.
SmootSmack 02-24-2007, 10:12 PM See, i dont really understand why you would like this trade...
Here you are suggesting to trade down from number 6 to number 8, which in itself could command a 2nd or 3rd round pick...depending on how badly the team wanted to move up to get a player available at #6.
And then trading betts away for a 2nd round pick...
So if you count the value of going from 6th overall to 8th overall...then you are essentially suggesting we trade Betts and a 2nd or 3rd rd pick (which is the value we could get for dropping from 6th to 8th) for the texans 2nd rounder... I dont really see how this would be a beneficial trade from our angle.
Ideally I'd say #6 for #8 and #40 but it would seem like we may have to add a little extra for that.
EARTHQUAKE2689 02-24-2007, 10:52 PM TO HELL WITH THAT! Betts had 1154 rushing yards last year and he only started 7 games I think. 7! Add 445 recieving yards and 5 overall TD's and I say thats pretty damn good. Why would we trade a back who has just proved himself as being able to carry a nice load of work AND a high pick for an above average LB and 25th pick? I like Vilma, he's cool and all but WTF! Trading down is not a good idea. On one hand, Vilma could really shore up the defense but then the quality of our pick decreases pretty greatly. Yeah, there might be people at that spot worth taking but, I think the draft could go any which crazy ways so.....ok...I'm too F-ed up right now from staying up all night partying, it's time to sleep. I'll finish this later. Hahah
yeah that pretty much sums it up if we odnt get an extra pick (like the one we gave them last year what the hell were we thinking then this deal is str8 up bulls***!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
offiss 02-25-2007, 04:45 AM Ideally I'd say #6 for #8 and #40 but it would seem like we may have to add a little extra for that.
Well it alway's SEEEEEEEMS that way to a lot of people within the organization, thats why we constantly come out with the short end of the stick.
We will not make a trade until the draft starts to unfold and teams see the player their targeting become available, they will be willing to pay more as the pick approaches and they know they can get their guy, personally I believe Peterson can be a big chip for us to play if he's still there when we pick, the Panthers have a huge need a RB, they may be the team willing to give up the most to get Peterson if he's still available. Quinn could be another guy that's available when we pick and possibly bring back quite a bit.
dmek25 02-25-2007, 11:42 AM I'm not sure why people around here don't want to trade a back up running back( with fumbling issues) for a proven, pro bowl middle linebacker. we definitely need someone in the middle. yet, on the flip side, alot of these same people seem to have no problem signing a 32 year old middle linebacker, when the last 2 times we have tried that, have failed miserably( trotter, barrow)? by signing fletcher, this puts the skins in the exact same position they are in , about 2 seasons from now. this is assuming they can get 2 years out of fletcher
SmootSmack 02-25-2007, 11:45 AM I'm not sure why people around here don't want to trade a back up running back( with fumbling issues) for a proven, pro bowl middle linebacker. we definitely need someone in the middle. yet, on the flip side, alot of these same people seem to have no problem signing a 32 year old middle linebacker, when the last 2 times we have tried that, have failed miserably( trotter, barrow)? by signing fletcher, this puts the skins in the exact same position they are in , about 2 seasons from now. this is assuming they can get 2 years out of fletcher
I don't think that's the real concern. It's dropping from #6 to #25 and not adding any other picks that's the concern
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