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Pocket$ $traight 02-22-2007, 12:57 AM I suppose I could look for the link but I thought I remember reading or hearing that Friend explicitly said Springs wasn't the source.
And I don't think Bly's an upgrade over Springs, but a more cost efficient alternative to Clements perhaps
I know that Springs denied it and maybe Friend did as well. However, how could he own up to it during the season? It was already enough of a circus around there.
Most people assumed it was Arch and he is staying while it sounds like Springs is going.
I guess my problem with taking Bly over Springs is the unknown. We know that Springs (when healthy) is a pro-bowl quality corner in our defense. While you can assume that Clements would fit in well, you don't know. The same with Bly.
Bottom line, if our corners are Bly, Smoot and Rogers, we will be fine.
SkinEmAll 02-22-2007, 01:11 AM Yeah I agree, that would be a good crew of corners. And this means I might be able to un-retire my Smooooooot jersey!!:headbange
SmootSmack 02-22-2007, 01:12 AM I'll admit the thought of the return of "Smootsmack" makes me want to smack my smoot, if you know what I mean!....no? ok then
SkinEmAll 02-22-2007, 01:20 AM haha, thats funny. smack it, dont crack it!!
GMScud 02-22-2007, 04:07 AM All this being said, I'd like to see what truth there is to the rumors of the whole draft pick swap/betts for Jonathan Vilma trade that has been mentioned.....
dmek25 02-22-2007, 06:03 AM i would rather the skins get Vilma in the middle, instead of old man fletcher. and if springs is leaving, i sure hope the skins have plan be ready. because rogers is going to really have to step it up, big time this season. and i would think that smoot has little or no chance at coming back
724Skinsfan 02-22-2007, 08:07 AM Anybody have an idea what Fletcher, Smoot and Bly will cost us? I'm of the opinion that I'd rather have a veteran CB or two that can play all 16 games than an outstanding cover CB that may or may not be able to play half a season. Springs definitely has a history of injuries.
#56fanatic 02-22-2007, 08:49 AM I hope we can trade down and get some more picks on the first day. if they dont, i look at Anderson to be the guy taken. Big, strong, can play the run and create a pass rush.
Springs..I love the guy as a player. He has played extremely well for us. However, if he does not restructure he may have to move on. This will be his 4th year and that contract is probably a little unfriendly for his age, plus injury concerns. However, they have to have a pretty stone cold plan of getting someone in return if he is let go. (Smoot, Bly...)
Fletcher... I have been skeptical, but after some thought, if we can get a year or two of solid play, then why not.
Hall has to go..he sucks. Suisham did remarkably well for us last season.
Dockery HAS TO...HAS TO BE RESIGNED. It would be a crime to let this guy go. It will be another black eye on the front office if he leaves. To me, he is one of the CORE guys this coaching staff speaks of. Our O line churned out the 4th best rushing attack in the NFL, with a #2 RB. He should be top priority before signing anyone to this team. Think about how he will feel if Fletcher or Clements is signed to a nice little contract before him. That will be a huge wrench in the negotiations if that happens.
TheMalcolmConnection 02-22-2007, 08:53 AM I hope we can trade down and get some more picks on the first day. if they dont, i look at Anderson to be the guy taken. Big, strong, can play the run and create a pass rush.
Springs..I love the guy as a player. He has played extremely well for us. However, if he does not restructure he may have to move on. This will be his 4th year and that contract is probably a little unfriendly for his age, plus injury concerns. However, they have to have a pretty stone cold plan of getting someone in return if he is let go. (Smoot, Bly...)
Fletcher... I have been skeptical, but after some thought, if we can get a year or two of solid play, then why not.
Hall has to go..he sucks. Suisham did remarkably well for us last season.
Dockery HAS TO...HAS TO BE RESIGNED. It would be a crime to let this guy go. It will be another black eye on the front office if he leaves. To me, he is one of the CORE guys this coaching staff speaks of. Our O line churned out the 4th best rushing attack in the NFL, with a #2 RB. He should be top priority before signing anyone to this team. Think about how he will feel if Fletcher or Clements is signed to a nice little contract before him. That will be a huge wrench in the negotiations if that happens.
My first reaction when I read he most likely won't get resigned was pure anger, but I sat back and really thought about the situation. So a lot of articles are stating that he's wanting a HUGE payday, I think TAF even mentioned that he's wanting top OFFENSIVE LINEMAN money, which is ridiculous. If this is the case, the Skins are wise to let him test the free agent waters and SEE FOR HIMSELF that he's not worth what he's asking for. While there's no one else I'd rather have at that position than him, we simply cannot afford to throw around ridiculous contracts.
It's a precedent that needs to get established NOW. When we want to resign Cooley and Taylor, how is it going to look if we give Dockery the biggest contract in the league for an offensive lineman? Taylor (while great, isn't the best in the league, same with Cooley) would all expect the same. It would be a damn shame to see him go, but if the Skins are prepared to offer him a competitive contract as to what other teams are offering him and he turns it down, we'll see some TRUE colors.
#56fanatic 02-22-2007, 09:02 AM My first reaction when I read he most likely won't get resigned was pure anger, but I sat back and really thought about the situation. So a lot of articles are stating that he's wanting a HUGE payday, I think TAF even mentioned that he's wanting top OFFENSIVE LINEMAN money, which is ridiculous. If this is the case, the Skins are wise to let him test the free agent waters and SEE FOR HIMSELF that he's not worth what he's asking for. While there's no one else I'd rather have at that position than him, we simply cannot afford to throw around ridiculous contracts.
It's a precedent that needs to get established NOW. When we want to resign Cooley and Taylor, how is it going to look if we give Dockery the biggest contract in the league for an offensive lineman? Taylor (while great, isn't the best in the league, same with Cooley) would all expect the same. It would be a damn shame to see him go, but if the Skins are prepared to offer him a competitive contract as to what other teams are offering him and he turns it down, we'll see some TRUE colors.
I agree. I dont think he deserves top dollar. But i do think the skins should sign him to a NICE contract. he is only a 4 year player, has evolved into a dominant run blocker, is big strong, and can move. They may want to look at his progressiveness over the past few years, which would indicate he could be one of the best guards in the league if he continues to grow as he has. he has great o line people around him that will make him better every day. I would think it would be stupid to let him test FA market. he will get a good deal out there, one that the skins will not be able to match or come close to.
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