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#56fanatic 02-22-2007, 08:57 AM when will someone draw the line on the PC crap. To have a NFL franchise, one of, if not, the richest franchise in all of sports honor your heritage would make me proud. They dont do all the crap Florida state does with the guy riding a horse and throwing a spear and doing the little dance. This stuff is what America is all about. We are able to express ourselves freely. Like it or not, as americans we have that right. Because someone finds it offensive, doesn't make it wrong. We can't even call Christmas, christmas. It is now not PC to say that. Halloween is being cut out of neighborhoods, pledge of alegance... this stuff has gone way too far. its just people trying to get their names in the paper and face on TV. WE as americans are losing our rights to people that move in to our country because things are offensive. Well, if you dont like it, dont watch it, celebrate it, take part in it, what ever. That is what living in America gives you, choices!
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-22-2007, 09:44 AM WE as americans are losing our rights to people that move in to our country because things are offensive.
What does that mean?
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-22-2007, 09:47 AM I still am amazed by people on both sides of this issue who get their panties in a wad.
ArtMonkDrillz 02-22-2007, 09:55 AM What does that mean?He means these damn Native Americans need to stop trying to take over our country! It's like they think they own the damn place.
(BTW, I'm obviously kidding ;) )
Bushead 02-22-2007, 10:24 AM After killing their whole race, trails of tears, lying and theiving, forcing them on reservations, destroying them, and making resolutions only to break later, hell, if they want the name to be changed, go ahead. Its ****ing football, not life.
SkinEmAll 02-22-2007, 10:33 AM I usually dont get my pantys in a wad over too many things. But this issue is one exception. I guess my thing is why persecute something whose intention is not meant to be negative? This franchise was born in 1932 as the Boston Braves. George Preston Marshall bought the new team in 1932. A year later he renamed them the Redskins and hired an Indian coach named Lone Star Dietz. They reached the NFL championship in 1936, losing to Green Bay. Not getting much fan support, he moved the team to D.C. in 1937. Enter Sammy Baugh, Cliff Battles and other Redskin greats. I guess my point is the name has always represented something great and proud. The attendance nearly doubled the first year in D.C. from 57,363 for 7 games in Boston to 120,022 for 6 games the first year in D.C. And back then people were much more divded. I just hate to even think that some people consider the name Redskin, as it is associated to the football team, offensive. Im sure the team will never be faced with a name change, but man it just drives me crazy to even think about it.
SkinEmAll 02-22-2007, 10:47 AM After killing their whole race, trails of tears, lying and theiving, forcing them on reservations, destroying them, and making resolutions only to break later, hell, if they want the name to be changed, go ahead. Its ****ing football, not life.
I agree, this is football were talking about, and those things did happen. But the name Redskins in no way, shape or form represents any of that.
Summo 02-22-2007, 11:17 AM If the team is "Forced" to change there name and logo's, would you still be a fan of the franchise? Especially the out of state fan's.
Monkeydad 02-22-2007, 11:40 AM I'd still be a fan but I'd be super-pissed.
I did a research paper on this in high school in like '94 or '95.
Something like 90-95% of ACTUAL Native Americans either loved the name and felt it was a honor, or had nothing against it.
A tiny minority actually cares and claim they're offended. MOST of the people raising this issue are white people, mainly politicians, mainly Democrat, PC-dictators...the same people who want to call secretaries "administrative assistants", garbage men "waste removal technicians" and dog walkers "canine fitness coordinators".
Monkeydad 02-22-2007, 11:40 AM Oh, and I've been told I'm "vertically challenged".
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