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skinsfan69 02-21-2007, 02:02 PM my worry is... say we let him walk and steinbach signs with another team.. where do we go from there?!
The Cards just let Leonard Davis walk. He's a little on the heavy side, and never reached his potential. But perhaps a fresh new start will help him. He would probably come cheap too.
skinsfan69 02-21-2007, 02:05 PM So I asked here at work what the real scoop is and apparently Dock (well, his agent I suppose) is asking for serious money. As in he wants to be the highest paid offensive lineman (includes tackles, not just guards) in the NFL. The market is apparently a little cool for him so the Skins expect he'll lower his demands.
Anyhow, that's the latest
LMAO!!! He's not even the best linemen on his own team. He could possibly be the worst linemen on his own team. That's ridicules!!!!!!!!!
GTripp0012 02-21-2007, 02:11 PM And then we are going to blow tons of money on some random Olineman. Give them one of those contracts with insane bonuses and low yearly salaries.And that would be a mistake, but that wouldn't make letting Dockery walk a mistake given the conditions.
GTripp0012 02-21-2007, 02:16 PM He could be re-signed AFTER the draft too. I don't see what the big deal is. I haven't heard anything about other teams that are interested in him, so why don't we just chill and let the Skins do what they gotta do?
I see one of two things happening with Dockery:
1) Dockery talks to a few teams at the combine, makes a wink, wink, nod, nod deal for some serious cash, and signs somewhere else on the first day or two of UFA.
2) Dockery talks to a few teams at the combine, realizes that there is no real market for him, turns around and signs with the Redskins about this time next week.
No chance he's around (on the open market) at the draft.
sportscurmudgeon 02-21-2007, 02:37 PM If the Redskins' FO/Coaching Staff make Dockery the highest paid offensive lineman in the NFL, they should all be checked into a rehab center because they are doing some very high quality stuff...
He's not the best offensive guard let alone lineman on the Redskins' team - let alone in the NFC East and etc. etc.
I can't believe his agent is that delusional either.
As of this moment, Dockery is not in danger of being sent away. As I pointed out in one of the other threads, the Redskins have a pattern when they are about to release or let go one of their starters. They begin to "trash" him in the local papers and on the local sports radio outlets - - and since Danny Boy onwns one of the local sports radio outlets, that makes it all the easier. I have not yet heard that Dockery is "difficult to coach" or "an outsider in the locker room" or "unwilling to work as hard as he can" or "has the most offensive body odor north of the equator". Absent that kind of "inside scoop" from Redskins' Park, I don't think they've given up on getting Dockery back here next year.
But I want to pose a cautionary note here for those who think that Dockery is some kind of lynch-pin for the entire team. He's been here 4 years and has played in every game for all of those 4 years. For the first 3 years he was fat and slow; he was toting around at least 30 lbs of extra fat - - and that's being kind.
Then he trimmed about 50 lbs of fat and added a lot of of muscle last year and his performance was hugely improved.
Now, did he do that because he "saw the light" and realized what he needed to do to survive in the NFL - - or did he do that because it was his contract year?
I don't know the answer to that because I don't read minds. But the answer to that question is VERY important when it comes to deciding just how much you want to pay him and how long a contract you want to sign him to.
MonkFan4Life 02-21-2007, 02:46 PM Highest paid lineman ???? I didn't laugh that hard at Richard Pryor Live in Concert, and I'm still laughing from the first time I saw it and that was YEARS ago ! I've still got about 100 or so more times watched to laugh at. I like Dock and all and I would like for him to stay but not for the highest paid deal. He's no Steve Hutchinson, he's not better than Randy Thomas IMO. Id give him a deal around or SLIGHTLY better than Thomas'.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-21-2007, 03:02 PM I would definately like to see Dockery re-signed because: (1) he should not be terribly expensive; (2) it would be nice to have some continuity on the O-line; (3) it would be nice to show that the perception that the front office doesn't reward its own guys is not totally accurate; and (4) he's a good starter, particularly in a run-first offense.
That said, Dockery may be good, but he's also the weakest link on the O-line. Whenever someone is flagged for holding or, particularly, for a false start, Dockery's number is called 1/2 the time.
Moreover, he's not nearly as strong as his size would indicate. For example, in the 2nd Dallas game last year, MLB Bradie James actually stopped Dockery cold on a running play and tackled Portis near the goal line despite being about 100 pounds lighter. I'm not judging Dockery based solely on that play, but I've seen a number of instances in which Dockery isn't as dominant in run-blocking as you would think he would be by simply looking at him.
Hopefully a good deal will get worked out that gives Dockery his due without overpaying him.
GMScud 02-21-2007, 03:24 PM The problem with re-signing Dock for what he's really worth is that he's gonna want MORE than he's really worth. Based on the Redskins track record of massive contracts for average players, who can blame him? Hopefully when the market opens he'll see that he isn't worth Steve Hutchinson/Orlando Pace type money, and will stick with the team he has grown comfortable with. I also wonder how long Redskins players will agree to restructure contracts for the benefit of other people's wallets- are there any good players who HAVEN'T restructured for us in the past few years? (Sarcasm)
I found this article on CBSSportsline.com- great little write up about bargain shopping in the FA market. Makes we wonder if we should take a look at DE's Dewayne White and Cory Redding...
Cory Redding, Dewayne White, Eric Steinbach, National Football League - CBS SportsLine.com (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10007822/2)
jbcjr14 02-21-2007, 03:29 PM Can someone tell me if we have placed a franchise tag on anyone this year?
EARTHQUAKE2689 02-21-2007, 03:35 PM no we have not but i wouldnt franchise derrick dockery
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