Dwight Freeney to Skins?

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hooskins
02-20-2007, 02:13 PM
Why does someone always have to make a smart comment?
I am a jackass.

RobH4413
02-20-2007, 02:23 PM
I am a jackass.
:lol:

Pocket$ $traight
02-20-2007, 02:52 PM
I am a jackass.

I said that months ago!

GMScud
02-20-2007, 03:30 PM
Look at some of high (3rd round or better) draft picks we've had the past four years:

Sean Taylor (led the team in tackles this year)
Jason Campbell (led the team in TD passes this year)
Chris Cooley (led the team in catches this year)
Carlos Rodgers (led the team in passes defended this year)
Derrick Dockery (started 16 games last year)
Ladell Betts (played great in place of an injured Portis)

So while we piss away drafts picks in sickening fashion, the few we have had over the past few years look better than some of the free agency debacles we have had. We've got a chance to have the first or second defensive player in the draft in Gaines Adams or Jamaal Anderson. DRAFT A DE!!! I'd rather a 21 or 22 year old future Dwight Freeney for a fraction of the cost of a 27 or 28 year old actual Dwight Freeney.

Beemnseven
02-20-2007, 04:24 PM
Look at some of high (3rd round or better) draft picks we've had the past four years:

Sean Taylor (led the team in tackles this year)
Jason Campbell (led the team in TD passes this year)
Chris Cooley (led the team in catches this year)
Carlos Rodgers (led the team in passes defended this year)
Derrick Dockery (started 16 games last year)
Ladell Betts (played great in place of an injured Portis)

So while we piss away drafts picks in sickening fashion, the few we have had over the past few years look better than some of the free agency debacles we have had. We've got a chance to have the first or second defensive player in the draft in Gaines Adams or Jamaal Anderson. DRAFT A DE!!! I'd rather a 21 or 22 year old future Dwight Freeney for a fraction of the cost of a 27 or 28 year old actual Dwight Freeney.

Well, just to nitpick a little ...

Carlos Rogers? To me he's still a big, big question mark. He hasn't been the runaway success you'd hope for in a #9 overall pick. Leading this secondary in passes defended is a bit misleading don't you think?

Ladell Betts has really come into his own despite the fumbles, but the knock on that selection was that it was a huge reach to take him in the second round. Most everybody had him lasting through the fourth.

And while the front office gets a lot of credit for having their eye on a little known tight end from Utah State in Chris Cooley, the problem was that he was a 2-for-1 deal. That brings us to another problem, for a couple of the legitimate gems we've been able get in the draft, (and for what could be a dud in Rocky McIntosh) we wind up losing future draft picks to get them.

I'll give you Dockery in the 3rd round of '03. That was a solid pick. Taylor was a no-brainer. We'll have to wait and see on Campbell, though I so desperately want him to be the long-awaited franchise QB for this team.

Overall, I just don't see how anyone can say this front office has made wise use of the draft in recent years.

rypper11
02-20-2007, 04:45 PM
Jamal Anderson will help more than Freeney even now. He is much better against the run and opposite Carter he should have immediate impact. Plus, Golston looked really good at the end of the year at DT. Maybe with Griffin mentoring the other 3 the line might not be abysmal this year (of course there would still be no depth cuz Daniels and Wynn are really over the hill and can't play a full season between them.
We'll probably still give up a few more picks to move up to 4 to get the same guy available at 6 anyway.

hooskins
02-20-2007, 07:26 PM
I said that months ago!

But it didn't seem so valid coming from another jackass's mouth.

GTripp0012
02-20-2007, 08:42 PM
Well, just to nitpick a little ...

Carlos Rogers? To me he's still a big, big question mark. He hasn't been the runaway success you'd hope for in a #9 overall pick. Leading this secondary in passes defended is a bit misleading don't you think?

Ladell Betts has really come into his own despite the fumbles, but the knock on that selection was that it was a huge reach to take him in the second round. Most everybody had him lasting through the fourth.

And while the front office gets a lot of credit for having their eye on a little known tight end from Utah State in Chris Cooley, the problem was that he was a 2-for-1 deal. That brings us to another problem, for a couple of the legitimate gems we've been able get in the draft, (and for what could be a dud in Rocky McIntosh) we wind up losing future draft picks to get them.

I'll give you Dockery in the 3rd round of '03. That was a solid pick. Taylor was a no-brainer. We'll have to wait and see on Campbell, though I so desperately want him to be the long-awaited franchise QB for this team.

Overall, I just don't see how anyone can say this front office has made wise use of the draft in recent years.Carlos Rogers did average more than a pass defended per game. Nothing spectacular, but that's not bad by any stretch of the imagination.

Team's usually get 50-75 total knockdowns in a season (I don't think the Skins got anywhere near this), and most starting corners average 15-20. Carlos is right where he needs to be.

Not bad considering that we likely didnt defense a pass until Week 7.

Beemnseven
02-20-2007, 08:49 PM
Carlos Rogers did average more than a pass defended per game. Nothing spectacular, but that's not bad by any stretch of the imagination.

Team's usually get 50-75 total knockdowns in a season (I don't think the Skins got anywhere near this), and most starting corners average 15-20. Carlos is right where he needs to be.

Not bad considering that we likely didnt defense a pass until Week 7.

But the problem is that knockdowns or passes defenced are not the measure of a good cornerback. I don't think rational person would try to argue that Carlos Rogers anywhere close to being the caliber player we thought he'd be.

GTripp0012
02-20-2007, 08:52 PM
But the problem is that knockdowns or passes defenced are not the measure of a good cornerback. I don't think rational person would try to argue that Carlos Rogers anywhere close to being the caliber player we thought he'd be.I agree 100% that knockdowns are a very incomplete measure of CB talent, but I don't see CR as being that far behind in his development. Sure we'd like him to make a few more plays, but it looks like hes going to grow into a consistent starter for us for many years, and that would satisfy me.

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