1st Round Picks tend to be 4 Star Recruits Coming out of High School

Dirtbag59
02-09-2007, 05:01 PM
I was on Rivals100.com the other day looking at the profiles of this years upcoming first round picks and I noticed something. Most of the prospects were 3 or 4 star recruits coming out of high school. Hell Alex Smith (the QB) was a two star prospect, Jeff Samarzda was a three star prospect (yes I know hes going to the Cubs). Anyway heres some examples of the rivals100.com ratings of this years blue chip prospects (for the Draft) when they were seniors in high school.

2007 NFL Draft
Brady Quinn (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=8697) QB http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Joe Thomas (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=10996) OL http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Leon Hall (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=11077) DB http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Alan Branch (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=17993) OL http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif (DT for Michigan)
Marshawn Lynch (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=19920) RB http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Charles Johnson (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=16967) DE http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Quentin Moses (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=1056) DE http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Gaines Adams (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=4498) TE http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
(Yes, Gaines Adams was a TE coming out of HS)
Adrian Peterson (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=14848) RB http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Theodore Ginn, Jr (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=20160) DB http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Tony Gonzalez (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=9075) DB http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Troy Smith (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=207) QB http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Levi Brown (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=1788) DT http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif (OT from Penn State)
Jamaal Anderson (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=18842) WR http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
(The DE out of Arkansas that will be a top 10 pick this year)
JaMarcus Russell (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=7844) QB http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Calvin Johnson (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=18332) WR http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Dwayne Jarrett (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=18108) ATH http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
LaRon Landry (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=7221) ATH http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Reggie Nelson (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=9872) DB http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Jarvis Moss (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=9192) DE http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Lawrence Timmons (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=18622) LB http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Amobi Okoye (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=15728) OL http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
DeMarcus Tyler (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=10876) DT http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif




Other Picks from previous drafts
Odell Thurman (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=14667) LB http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif 6-1
Vernon Davis (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=10190) TE http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Donte Whitner (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=8518) DB http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Bobby Carpenter (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=421) LB http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Santonio Holmes (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=371) WR http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
A.J. Hawk (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=438) LB http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Tamba Hali (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=2604) DE http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Reggie Bush (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=8514) RB http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Darnell Bing (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=1579) DB http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Winston Justice (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=2708) OL http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Mike Williams (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=733) WR http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
D'Brickashaw Ferguson (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=1815) OL http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Kedric Golston (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=815) DT http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Manny Lawson (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=6086) DE http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
John McCargo (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=7347) DT http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif
Mario Williams (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=8538) DE http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif

dall-assblows
02-09-2007, 05:04 PM
thats interesting. almost seems to me that the lower stars worked alot harder than the 5 star players.

That Guy
02-09-2007, 06:13 PM
good players tend to become good players... surprise! still, a lot of 4 star HS players end up going low in the draft too.

dmek25
02-09-2007, 08:45 PM
im not sure of the point beind this thread. its saying that the good high school players were also good college players

JGisLordOfTheRings
02-09-2007, 08:47 PM
look @ okeye with 2 stars...didnt he just come from highschool? 18-19 or something?

Dirtbag59
02-10-2007, 03:45 AM
im not sure of the point beind this thread. its saying that the good high school players were also good college players

My point is that this past signing day I was watching everyone make a big deal about all these 5-Star recurits when in reality the guys that are going to be making an impact at the next level are the guys that are in the four star range. I mean think about it, Miami QB Kyle Wright was the #1 prospect 5 years ago. This year he'll be lucky to be drafted. Mario Williams was rated the 90th best prospect overall in his senior class. This year only two prospects that will go in the top ten picks of the draft this year were 5 star recruits coming out of high school.

GTripp0012
02-10-2007, 04:25 AM
My point is that this past signing day I was watching everyone make a big deal about all these 5-Star recurits when in reality the guys that are going to be making an impact at the next level are the guys that are in the four star range. I mean think about it, Miami QB Kyle Wright was the #1 prospect 5 years ago. This year he'll be lucky to be drafted. Mario Williams was rated the 90th best prospect overall in his senior class. This year only two prospects that will go in the top ten picks of the draft this year were 5 star recruits coming out of high school.Well theres also a very select few 5 star prospects, and most of them do end up being great college players. Theres a bunch more 4 star guys, and thats why they dominate the first round.

Scouting is an inexact science though. Not all 5 star prospects are going to have 5 star talent and every once in awhile, 3 star prosects will be superstars. Sometimes, high school coaches cant find the position where a guy is best at. Thus he gets ranked low, changes his position and becomes a stud at the college level.

Great research though.

That Guy
02-10-2007, 06:55 PM
there's only about 500000000 times more 4 star prospects. you name kyle wright, but what about reggie bush? ted ginn? adrian peterson? a lot of the 5 stars end up alright too.

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