Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF

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12thMan
02-03-2007, 06:30 PM
One of my greatest childhood memories was driving to the Hall from D.C. to Ohio with my childhood friend and his dad. I'll never forget it.

I think every year that Monk doesn't get in, it just further dimishes what the HOF is all about. To me, the HOF is becoming less relevant every year.

GTripp0012
02-03-2007, 06:32 PM
Mike Florio's Editorial on PFT on Monk v Irvin:

IRVIN OVER MONK SENDS A BAD MESSAGE

Now that Cowboys receiver Michael Irvin has leap-frogged Redskins/Jets/Eagles receiver Art Monk into Canton, we think it's high time for everyone who appreciates the talents of someone who does their job, does it well, keeps his mouth shut, and stays out of trouble to stand up and shout: "Why!?!"

Monk made it through 16 NFL seasons, and finished with 940 catches, 12,721 yards, and 68 touchdowns. He won three Super Bowl rings with three different quarterbacks (none of whom are or ever should be in the Hall of Fame) throwing the passes.

Irvin played 12 years, and caught 750 passes for 11,904 yards and 65 touchdowns. He won three Super Bowls with Hall of Famer Troy Aikman distributing the pill.

The only real difference between the two? Irvin was a loudmouth on the field, and a turd off of it. Monk was neither.

We know. We know. A player's off-the-field exploits are not to be considered, per Hall of Fame bylaws. Well, why hasn't it occurred to someone to change the damn bylaws?

What message does it send to kids out there when a receiver who acts responsibly and humbly on and off the field gets passed over by a guy with lesser career stats? And what happens if/when Irvin (who from time to time appears to be incoherent on the air) dishonors the assembly of busts (which per John Madden come to life at night and talk to each other) if/when Irvin gets arrested again?

We've been to Canton, and it's weird to see O.J. Simpson's bust among those of all of the non-murderers. In his case, though, no one had an inkling that he might someday treat his ex-wife and her friend like a couple of Thanksgiving turkeys. For guys like Irvin, will anyone be surprised if/when he does something that will tarnish the entire body of players who represent true excellence in the sport?

When a team drafts a guy with a history of misconduct and the player commits further misconduct after joining the team, the team that selected him rightly is criticized. We think that the organization and its selection committee fairly should face the same scrutiny if/when Irvin casts shame on the Hall of Fame.

ProFootballTalk.com -- The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet (http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm)

12thMan
02-03-2007, 06:33 PM
Character and class aside, Art Monk was a great reciever!

SUNRA
02-03-2007, 06:35 PM
Just went to ESPN's website. The poll asks, Which player are you surprised was omitted? An overwhelmingly 39% of America said Art Monk. Now all of them are not Redskins fans. They are informative football fans. No good bastards at ESPN.

GiantsSuck703
02-03-2007, 06:36 PM
Mike Florio's Editorial on PFT on Monk v Irvin:

IRVIN OVER MONK SENDS A BAD MESSAGE

Now that Cowboys receiver Michael Irvin has leap-frogged Redskins/Jets/Eagles receiver Art Monk into Canton, we think it's high time for everyone who appreciates the talents of someone who does their job, does it well, keeps his mouth shut, and stays out of trouble to stand up and shout: "Why!?!"

Monk made it through 16 NFL seasons, and finished with 940 catches, 12,721 yards, and 68 touchdowns. He won three Super Bowl rings with three different quarterbacks (none of whom are or ever should be in the Hall of Fame) throwing the passes.

Irvin played 12 years, and caught 750 passes for 11,904 yards and 65 touchdowns. He won three Super Bowls with Hall of Famer Troy Aikman distributing the pill.

The only real difference between the two? Irvin was a loudmouth on the field, and a turd off of it. Monk was neither.

We know. We know. A player's off-the-field exploits are not to be considered, per Hall of Fame bylaws. Well, why hasn't it occurred to someone to change the damn bylaws?

What message does it send to kids out there when a receiver who acts responsibly and humbly on and off the field gets passed over by a guy with lesser career stats? And what happens if/when Irvin (who from time to time appears to be incoherent on the air) dishonors the assembly of busts (which per John Madden come to life at night and talk to each other) if/when Irvin gets arrested again?

We've been to Canton, and it's weird to see O.J. Simpson's bust among those of all of the non-murderers. In his case, though, no one had an inkling that he might someday treat his ex-wife and her friend like a couple of Thanksgiving turkeys. For guys like Irvin, will anyone be surprised if/when he does something that will tarnish the entire body of players who represent true excellence in the sport?

When a team drafts a guy with a history of misconduct and the player commits further misconduct after joining the team, the team that selected him rightly is criticized. We think that the organization and its selection committee fairly should face the same scrutiny if/when Irvin casts shame on the Hall of Fame.

ProFootballTalk.com -- The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet (http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm)

PFT has been my favorite NFL site for awhile now, many people dont like it but I normally look at it everyday. They are pretty unbias and say the things that other places refuse too, what a great group of guys they have over there, kudos to Pro Football Talk for staying true to themselves.

Monk-Fan
02-03-2007, 06:47 PM
I feel bad for Monk but like I've said in the past he was a good receiver but not HoF material. I think us Redskins fans are just going to have to accept the fact that Monk is not going into the HoF.



Your an Idiot, you dont know what you are talking about.

irish
02-03-2007, 07:19 PM
Your an Idiot, you dont know what you are talking about.

Thanks for the intelligent insight.

56FAN
02-03-2007, 07:20 PM
we need to get rid of these writers who know less than most of us about football and put retired hall of fame coaches and players on a board to vote them in or not. who better to judge the worthiness or unworthiness of someone to enter the hall than one who is in there. what idiot put these know nothings never played game gum shoes in charge of who enters and who doesn't. they have proven again incapable of making wise choices. putting captian push off in before mr monk is beyond rediculous it's an insult.the hall will no longer matter to me as long as these people are allowd to make choices that they are not qualified to make.being a writer and or going to college doesn't impress me or make one more able to pick someone to enter the hall.the sheen is off the hall in my book.well, mr monk, you have been and always will a HALL OF FAMER to me and millions of others.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
02-03-2007, 07:31 PM
I know a lot of people are pissed about today's vote and perhaps Irish might have wanted to wait a day or two to post something saying Monk doesn't deserve to be in, but Irish IS entitled to his opinion and DOES deserve respect. So, please do not enage in personal attacks.

That being said, Irish, what the hell are you thinking! (j/k). But seriously, how can you possibly say that Monk doesn't deserve to be in? Because he didn't make a memorable catch? If that is actually a criterion of yours, then Brandon Lloyd should start getting ready to have his bust made. What does a memorable catch have to do with anything? What, if anything else, are your reasons why you don't think he should be in?

irish
02-03-2007, 07:39 PM
I know a lot of people are pissed about today's vote and perhaps Irish might have wanted to wait a day or two to post something saying Monk doesn't deserve to be in, but Irish IS entitled to his opinion and DOES deserve respect. So, please do not enage in personal attacks.

That being said, Irish, what the hell are you thinking! (j/k). But seriously, how can you possibly say that Monk doesn't deserve to be in? Because he didn't make a memorable catch? If that is actually a criterion of yours, then Brandon Lloyd should start getting ready to have his bust made. What does a memorable catch have to do with anything? What, if anything else, are your reasons why you don't think he should be in?

IMO the one of the biggest reasons Monk did not get the votes is because in the Super Bowls he just was not any kind of factor. I know he cant help how he was used (or not used) in the game plan but thats just the way it is. Also as I have said in the past his numbers while good when he retired are just not that outstanding now. He needed to get in within the first couple of years he was eligible, now that thats passed his numbers and memory keep fading. Unfortunately I just dont see him ever getting in.

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