Doug Williams said Wha'?

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JGisLordOfTheRings
01-27-2007, 07:17 PM
Okay article I found on Yahoo Sports. The last 2 lines are what get me. Just read and discuss.

AP Interview: Doug Williams basks in landmark day for NFL - NFL - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-williams-nfl-blacks&prov=ap&type=lgns)

SmootSmack
01-27-2007, 07:27 PM
He talked about this the other day. Just how he was so wrapped up in just being a football player on Super Bowl Sunday and trying to lead his team to victory, that he didn't think of deeper signifance really while he was in the moment. I can understand that.

dmek25
01-27-2007, 07:40 PM
does it really matter what the color of someones skin is? i cheered for doug williams the same way i cheered for jurgey

Warpath
01-27-2007, 07:48 PM
does it really matter what the color of someones skin is? i cheered for doug williams the same way i cheered for jurgey

Amen. I get frustrated when the media says things like "the first black qb in the superbowl..." or "the first black coach in the superbowl..." can't we just say that this is his first time to the big game and that he is in fact a great player or coach? Why do they continously have to point out the fact that he is black? Did they have to mention that Bart Starr was the first white qb in the superbowl back in 1967? I think not.
It just seems to me that for this country to move forward we need to not even mention what color someone is.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
01-27-2007, 08:24 PM
Amen. I get frustrated when the media says things like "the first black qb in the superbowl..." or "the first black coach in the superbowl..." can't we just say that this is his first time to the big game and that he is in fact a great player or coach? Why do they continously have to point out the fact that he is black? Did they have to mention that Bart Starr was the first white qb in the superbowl back in 1967? I think not.
It just seems to me that for this country to move forward we need to not even mention what color someone is.

I understand your sentiments and respect them, but I disagree with them. But in my opinion race is still an issue in football. For years many thought that black football players were good at running and catching, but lacked the mental acumen to play QB. That stereotype persists to this day, albeit behind closed doors (I've heard people express as much). That is, IMHO, why you see so many black football players at WR, CB, RB, LB, and along the lines, but not at QB.

The reason why Bart Starr's race was not pointed out was simply because he was white, it was not unusual. The reason why Jackie Robinson's race is pointed out is that he was a trailblazer and dealt with a tremendous amount of adversity on account of his race. While I understand the belief that we shouldn't talk about race, its simply a fact that it does have an impact (albeit less and less of an impact over time as society becomes more tolerant).

12thMan
01-27-2007, 08:33 PM
I understand your sentiments and respect them, but I disagree with them. But in my opinion race is still an issue in football. For years many thought that black football players were good at running and catching, but lacked the mental acumen to play QB. That stereotype persists to this day, albeit behind closed doors (I've heard people express as much). That is, IMHO, why you see so many black football players at WR, CB, RB, LB, and along the lines, but not at QB.

The reason why Bart Starr's race was not pointed out was simply because he was white, it was not unusual. The reason why Jackie Robinson's race is pointed out is that he was a trailblazer and dealt with a tremendous amount of adversity on account of his race. While I understand the belief that we shouldn't talk about race, its simply a fact that it does have an impact (albeit less and less of an impact over time as society becomes more tolerant).

Couldn't have said it any better.

SkinEmAll
01-27-2007, 09:17 PM
Doug Williams is black?

JGisLordOfTheRings
01-27-2007, 09:18 PM
He talked about this the other day. Just how he was so wrapped up in just being a football player on Super Bowl Sunday and trying to lead his team to victory, that he didn't think of deeper signifance really while he was in the moment. I can understand that.


When you put it like that, it makes a lot more sense to a stoner like myself. LOL.

JGisLordOfTheRings
01-27-2007, 09:19 PM
Doug Williams is black?


Thats what I said! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........oh that was great...I would LOVE for someone to say that around me and be totally serious so i could die laughing.

SmootSmack
01-27-2007, 09:23 PM
Thats what I said! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........oh that was great...I would LOVE for someone to say that around me and be totally serious so i could die laughing.

Look, not to change the subject here but your sig makes no sense:

"I'd run over Russ Grimm's mother to get to the Superbowl too."
-Russ Grimm, on being asked about saying he would run over his own mother to get to the Superbowl

That's Matt Millen's quote (not Russ Grimm's) after Russ Grimm said he'd run over his own mother to win the Super Bowl (SB XVIII)

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