NFC East Champ?

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dmek25
01-28-2007, 08:35 PM
kearse is a non factor. guaranteed to be hurt at some point of the season

Big C
01-29-2007, 04:14 AM
eagles are favorites right now without a doubt, they are the most stable. giants are out IMO since they have lost tiki and coughlin is a terrible coach and they hate him, cowboys we will have to see who their new coach is, adn for us we have to see what we do with our defense

#56fanatic
01-29-2007, 09:19 AM
#56Fanatic, I broke your post down into paragraphs. It just makes it a lot easier to read. You had some good points, and I'd hate for people to just gloss over it because of the format.

thanks, i forgot to do that. I get on a roll and just keep typing.

gabe1984
01-29-2007, 09:55 AM
I would trade the #6 for a later first, 2nd, and maybe 5th through 7th, what ever we could get. There are quality players out there to be had.

#56Fanatic, I've thought about the idea you posted about trading the #6 pick, and I think that it may be a good idea, but we should wait until after the combine to decide. I think they shold take Branch with the 6th pick if he's still available, and then Gaines Adams if Branch is gone. But, I want whoever judges talent on our team to be confident that these guys are absolute studs, guys they are sure, although I guess you can never be absolutely sure, that can come in and make a difference. If not, I say trade the pick, and try to build some depth. I'd rather trade the pick and get a few good guys, then use the 6th pick on some big name guy, and have him turn out like Mario Williams. I just want to make sure we use that pick in a way that will help our team the most.

2. The linebacking has to get at least 100% better than it was this year. They need to get a middle linebacker who can actually play middle linebacker without the luxury of a huge DT or two in front of him to keep every blocker on the planet off him. And unless Rocky Boy uses the off-season to figure out what the hell he's supposed to be doing in that defense, they need to find an outside linebacker too because neither Holdman nor Rocky Boy were productive last year. And before anyone talks about Rocky's "potential" let me remind everyone that "potential" means he hasn't done jack-sh*t yet.

I personally thought Rocky looked good this year when he was in the game. He made a lot of big hits on special teams and in the two games that he started he played well. Against St. Louis he had 10 tackles. Against the Giants, he had 7. ESPN.com - NFL - Roger McIntosh - Washington Redskins - Player Card (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7784)
When you say he hasn't done jack shit, I disagree, ten tackles in his first start is not jack shit. He also made a huge play in the game against the Rams when he ran onto the field late in a 3rd and short and popped Stephen Jackson to stop him from getting the first down. Him and Golston are gonna me money next year.

skinsfan69
01-29-2007, 01:31 PM
kearse is a non factor. guaranteed to be hurt at some point of the season

Your might be right. But even w/out Kearse and DM they still won the division and won a playoff game. And could have advanced to the championship game. So they are still the favorites.

Hog1
01-29-2007, 02:52 PM
I would consider them the favorite as well. I would however, not consider them a lock. That presents us with a very doable oppurtunity. We also have wild card possibility. I think it will be a good year on the rebound! Can't wait

The Huddle
01-29-2007, 02:59 PM
Your might be right. But even w/out Kearse and DM they still won the division and won a playoff game. And could have advanced to the championship game. So they are still the favorites.

Agreed- No reason think they won't be. This team was very close to being in the NFC championship game again. The Redskins were 5-11. That's a prett fat gap to close in one year. I'll believe it when I see it.

GTripp0012
01-29-2007, 03:19 PM
Your might be right. But even w/out Kearse and DM they still won the division and won a playoff game. And could have advanced to the championship game. So they are still the favorites.Well, it's not like Garcia was a replacement level QB either. This season he played slightly worse than McNabb did, and McNabb was in the midst of his best season as a pro before the injury.

One thing you get with Garcia that you don't get with McNabb is consistency. McNabb can have stretches of games where he can go 3 and a half quarters making poor reads, overthrowing guys, and not doing the things with his legs that he's capable of. He has other games where he comes out of the gate in the zone and posts ridiculous numbers. It's a lot like Grossman in Chicago, but McNabb rarely gets picked even on his bad days (this is probably mostly an experience thing, but also McNabb is fortunate that his poorly thrown incompletions fall harmlessly to the turf whereas Grossman's find a way into the hands of a defensive back). All in all it averages out to a pretty good QB. But the Eagles as a team probably aren't too much better off offensively with Donovan than with Garcia; it's splitting hairs.

Kearse is...overrated. They let Derrick Burgess walk to make room for Kearse, and Burgess is probably the better player.

If the only thing that mattered was starting lineups, we are probably better than Philly. But they do a great job rotating in fresh defensive talent, and are built to deal well with injuries, and in an imperfect world like the NFL have a great chance to finish better than us.

GTripp0012
01-29-2007, 03:26 PM
Agreed- No reason think they won't be. This team was very close to being in the NFC championship game again. The Redskins were 5-11. That's a prett fat gap to close in one year. I'll believe it when I see it.Not to take anything away from the Eagles, who did a great job winning the NFC's strongest division at clearly less than full strength, but anytime you have a team who had to play 3 consecutive road games in the division and won all three of them, the opposition blew it. We could have won but didn't, the Giants had it easier than us and choked, and the Cowboys had it easiest and they really choked. Does this make the Giants and Cowboys worse? Not really. They just didn't play their best football when it mattered most, and paid with wild cards instead of a division championship.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
01-29-2007, 03:49 PM
One thing you get with Garcia that you don't get with McNabb is consistency. McNabb can have stretches of games where he can go 3 and a half quarters making poor reads, overthrowing guys, and not doing the things with his legs that he's capable of. He has other games where he comes out of the gate in the zone and posts ridiculous numbers. It's a lot like Grossman in Chicago, but McNabb rarely gets picked even on his bad days (this is probably mostly an experience thing, but also McNabb is fortunate that his poorly thrown incompletions fall harmlessly to the turf whereas Grossman's find a way into the hands of a defensive back). All in all it averages out to a pretty good QB. But the Eagles as a team probably aren't too much better off offensively with Donovan than with Garcia; it's splitting hairs.

I agree with the rest of your post, but not your point about McNabb. Obviously, as this season proved, the Eagles offense is good even when McNabb is MIA. That said, I think McNabb is one of the best QBs in the league and is pretty consistent.

Garcia had a great year, but he looked horrible in Detroit and Cleveland. Granted, those teams are awful, but he was just off for the past two years. I guarantee that if Garcia goes somewhere else this offseason to become a starter, he'll tank.

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