firstdown
01-25-2007, 04:04 PM
To me, and I very well could be wrong, it seems like the media went after Clinton harder for catching a BJ than they have gone after Bush for getting the US involved in Vietnam 2.0: the Reckoning. Maybe the fact that Congress was able to actually impeach Clinton for purgery had something to do with it, but at least the man didn't start a war that seems more likely to create new terrorists than get rid of the old ones.
Give me a break about Vietnam there is no comparison between the two.
FRPLG
01-25-2007, 04:21 PM
To me, and I very well could be wrong, it seems like the media went after Clinton harder for catching a BJ than they have gone after Bush for getting the US involved in Vietnam 2.0: the Reckoning. Maybe the fact that Congress was able to actually impeach Clinton for purgery had something to do with it, but at least the man didn't start a war that seems more likely to create new terrorists than get rid of the old ones.
I tend to think just about anything we do is going to make more terrorists.
ArtMonkDrillz
01-25-2007, 04:27 PM
I tend to think just about anything we do is going to make more terrorists.
Sadly, I think you're right. The world is getting smaller in terms of living space and there are so many fundamental difference between people that someone is always going to be pissed off about something.
dmek25
01-25-2007, 04:49 PM
Do you like the welfare program? How about social security?
aren't these pertinent issues to the welfare of our country? is steroids in baseball?
cpayne5
01-25-2007, 05:12 PM
aren't these pertinent issues to the welfare of our country? is steroids in baseball?
Lots of people consider steroids an 'issue to the the welfare of our country'. A strong case has been made (by people on both sides of the aisle) that as role models, steroid use by players sends a bad message (read, influence) to kids.
djnemo65
01-25-2007, 06:10 PM
Gay marriage was a phony wedge issue used to rile up the conservative christians in middle america. It was a strategy that worked - Bush got reelected. How much political capital have they expended on getting that amendment through after the election? Where is the push to get it ratified? Instead they decided they would try to privatize social security.
Anyway, I think Cheney should at least clarify how he can be part of an administration that openly discriminates against his daughter. If you want to cozy up to the Christian right to win elections you have to be publically accountable for that.
dmek25
01-25-2007, 06:13 PM
i couldnt have said that any better
dmek25
01-25-2007, 06:14 PM
but, accountability is something this adminstration doesnt know anything about
Sheriff Gonna Getcha
01-25-2007, 08:31 PM
The gay marriage debate was definately lacking in substance and was used to simply get W re-elected. However, meaningless issues forced upon us by idiot politicians pandering for votes is nothing new.
SkinEmAll
01-25-2007, 08:46 PM
Gay marriage was a phony wedge issue used to rile up the conservative christians in middle america. It was a strategy that worked - Bush got reelected. How much political capital have they expended on getting that amendment through after the election? Where is the push to get it ratified? Instead they decided they would try to privatize social security.
Anyway, I think Cheney should at least clarify how he can be part of an administration that openly discriminates against his daughter. If you want to cozy up to the Christian right to win elections you have to be publically accountable for that.
Well cheney had no choice in his daughters sexuality. If you are born gay, your gay. pretty simple. Discriminates? because they dont want to change the law? I feel like, whats the big deal with trying to change it really? If gays want to be together,.... be together. I dont care. I dont think that qualifys as discrimination. And Blitzer is one of the bigger democratic ball kissers around. His question was nothing more than an attempt to ruffle and disrespect the VP. His daughter has been discussed SO many times, and he has talked openly and at length about it, that their was no real reason to ask about her.