Vick's Bottle Tested Negative

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GhettoDogAllStars
01-22-2007, 01:35 PM
It's not his personal right to carry pot, or to smoke it. In almost every situation, it's against the law - although a claim of glaucoma would explain some passing accuracy questions I have.

The point isn't that the criminalization of marijuana use or possession is wrong. I'm pretty sure there is a consensus on this website that casual users of weed shouldn't be jailed. However, since it is illegal, understand that irresponsible use of marijuana - and carrying a secret compartment that has an odor of pot through the only place in the country where you are guaranteed a pat-down search is wildly irresponsible - is about as foolish as you can get without liquor and a chainsaw.

It's certainly irresponsible. It's certainly against the law. However, I don't believe that ANYONE has a right to tell another person what they can or can't do to their own body.

It is irresponsible for many people to have children. If they made a law against it, would that mean it is not their right to have children? I'm talking about human rights -- those that are inalienable. I believe using drugs is an inalienable personal right.

firstdown
01-22-2007, 01:43 PM
It's certainly irresponsible. It's certainly against the law. However, I don't believe that ANYONE has a right to tell another person what they can or can't do to their own body.

It is irresponsible for many people to have children. If they made a law against it, would that mean it is not their right to have children? I'm talking about human rights -- those that are inalienable. I believe using drugs is an inalienable personal right.
Thats OK with me but then when ones addicted, poor health, no job just don't ask the goverment to support these people with my tax dollars. OK, no more politics. What I don't understand is that you get resdue (spelling) from a pipe which was used for smoking not from a container which is thought to hold the weed before smoking.

GhettoDogAllStars
01-22-2007, 01:49 PM
Thats OK with me but then when ones addicted, poor health, no job just don't ask the goverment to support these people with my tax dollars. OK, no more politics. What I don't understand is that you get resdue (spelling) from a pipe which was used for smoking not from a container which is thought to hold the weed before smoking.

I totally agree. You might be able to see that I support less gov't -- not more. Hence the stance on personal freedoms. Well, that attitude applies to nearly every facet of gov't -- not just drug use, or the ones that are convenient for me.

BTW, a residue could be a concentrated form of THC -- like hashish.

SmootSmack
01-22-2007, 02:02 PM
OJ Simpson is innocent too - - right? That's what the law says so it has to be so.

There is a real difference between what someone does and what a prosecutor can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt in court - - particularly if that someone had a boatload of cash and can get expensively lawyered up.

If - I said IF - Michael Vick or any other well known sports star or celebrity has a water bottle with a fake compartment in his/her possession and tries to sneak it onto an aircraft in 2007, then that person is a moron.

Not a thug; not a criminal; not a sociopath. But a M-O-R-O-N.

What's worse? Moron or meathead?

firstdown
01-22-2007, 02:17 PM
OJ Simpson is innocent too - - right? That's what the law says so it has to be so.

There is a real difference between what someone does and what a prosecutor can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt in court - - particularly if that someone had a boatload of cash and can get expensively lawyered up.

If - I said IF - Michael Vick or any other well known sports star or celebrity has a water bottle with a fake compartment in his/her possession and tries to sneak it onto an aircraft in 2007, then that person is a moron.

Not a thug; not a criminal; not a sociopath. But a M-O-R-O-N.I agree it was stupid what he did but how many regular flights has Vick been on over the past couple of years? I'm sure most of his travel is either private planes or flying with the team so he may not have known that a water bottle was a no go. I think that law is fairly new in the past 12 months when that group was caught plotting to make those liquid bombs this year (2006).

Redskinhog1963
01-22-2007, 03:03 PM
will this put vick on any type of nfl watch list for drugs?why the hell would he want to do something like take a bottle with a hidden compartment on an airplane anyhow?

GhettoDogAllStars
01-22-2007, 03:08 PM
why the hell would he want to do something like take a bottle with a hidden compartment on an airplane anyhow?

In my mind, that fact pretty much proves Vick's guilt. There is no reason you'd take that kind of device on a plane, unless you are trying to deceive the security personnel.

Redskinhog1963
01-22-2007, 07:57 PM
In my mind, that fact pretty much proves Vick's guilt. There is no reason you'd take that kind of device on a plane, unless you are trying to deceive the security personnel.


since that part of the bottle did'nt contain anything,he must have been so stoned,he forgot he took/smoked it all then.he would'nt be the first guy to do that,but he may be the richest!

railcon56
01-22-2007, 08:15 PM
I Really could careless..What those player's do in the off season or there offtime.... they aren't true role models... parents, teachers, and Police are...

sportscurmudgeon
01-22-2007, 09:20 PM
TAFKAS:

Moron means the person being described as such is stupid. And here's The Curmudgeon's Law:


There is NO cure for stupid!


Meathead may involve stupidity in which case it too would be incurable. HOwever, Meathead MIGHT involve being a person with some basic intellect who is currently psychologically incapable of behaving in a socially acceptable way. In THAT case, Meatheadedness MIGHT be curable.

So, if I had to make a distinction here - and it would be a fine one at the very best - I'd say "Meathead" is ever so minimally better than "Moron".

Aren't you glad you asked... ?

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