Cap Room

Ahh yeah the dude I recently banned due to the fact he was spamming us and trying to get around our 10 post minimum to post new threads. Good info but the guy needs a lesson in forum etiquette.

Agreed. Which Warpath member(s) is responsible for giving etiquette lessons? PWNED?

In terms of tagging Dockery - I think he would get the O-Line amount. In
2006 the franchise tag for an O Lineman was 6.99 Mil. I think that the categories are set in the CBA and that, in 2006, there was not a separate category for guards. Unless the new CBA alters the categories, I think that franchising a tackle costs the same as franchising a guard. (For some reason, I thought they had separated out left tackles, but I could be wrong).

These numbers are from Ask The Commish.com - The Cost of Applying the Franchise Tag in 2006 (http://www.askthecommish.com/articles/page.asp?pid=22) and were for 2006:
Quarterback $8.8 million
Defensive End $8,332,000
Linebacker $7,169,000
Offensive Line $6.99 million
Wide Receiver $6,172,000
Running Back $6,085,000
Cornerback $5.9 million
Defensive Tackle $5,656,000
Safety $4.1 million
Tight End $3,327,000
Kicker/Punter $2.5 million

This is incorrect. The Redskins seem to have a lot of money tied up in cap figures for the 2008 season (currently stands at $102 million against the $116 million projected cap), but $60 million of it is tied to base salaries which can easily be renegotiated (and will be as the team has historically done). For example, saying goodbye to Brunell sometime before the 2008 season would clear his $6.5 million salary off the books and create almost enough space to handle Archuleta's $7 million deadcap hit alone. In addition, guys like Jansen, Samuels, R Thomas, Portis, Springs, and Marcus Washington are all scheduled to make $4 million or higher in 2008 base salaries. These can easily be renegotiated this time next year to clear another $10-$20 million in 2008 cap space, if the team needs.

The team has plenty of flexibility to not only cut Archuleta, but also cut Brandon Lloyd this year if they wanted to. Should they try to cut both, then they'd be more restricted in free agency. I don't think they'll do that, but they easily have the cap flexibility to create the space they need in both 2007 and 2008.Not arguing the flexibilty, but I'm just saying its a bad situation. We will need to put almost 30 guys under contract for 2008 who arent already with only cap room created through restructuring. It's not that hard to do, but damned if we can fit anyone of quality into that number.

If we continue to restructure everybody, it's going to get harder and harder to get any talent through FA from 2008 foward. We simply will have too many roster spaces to fill with a relatively small amount of cap space. We have to make sure to restructure only as much space as we need.

In terms of tagging Dockery - I think he would get the O-Line amount. In
2006 the franchise tag for an O Lineman was 6.99 Mil. I think that the categories are set in the CBA and that, in 2006, there was not a separate category for guards. Unless the new CBA alters the categories, I think that franchising a tackle costs the same as franchising a guard. (For some reason, I thought they had separated out left tackles, but I could be wrong).

These numbers are from Ask The Commish.com - The Cost of Applying the Franchise Tag in 2006 (http://www.askthecommish.com/articles/page.asp?pid=22) and were for 2006:
Quarterback $8.8 million
Defensive End $8,332,000
Linebacker $7,169,000
Offensive Line $6.99 million
Wide Receiver $6,172,000
Running Back $6,085,000
Cornerback $5.9 million
Defensive Tackle $5,656,000
Safety $4.1 million
Tight End $3,327,000
Kicker/Punter $2.5 millionWe could also transition tag him for considerably less, but the problem with that is someone for sure would put some sort of offer in since there is no penalty, and then you have to match it. Plus you get into poison pills and whatnot.

What about placing the transition tag on Dockery instead of the franchise tag? We may not get 2 first rounders if he signs elsewhere but at least it gives the Skins the match if other offers come in. I believe the transition tag requires the following - I would assume Dockery is worth this:


A transition player has received a minimum offer of the average of the top 10 salaries of last season at the player's position or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater.
A transition player designation gives the club a first-refusal right to match within seven days an offer sheet given to the player by another club after his contract expires. If the club matches, it retains the player. If it does not match, it receives no compensation. Transition players can be signed from March 3 through July 22.

What about placing the transition tag on Dockery instead of the franchise tag? We may not get 2 first rounders if he signs elsewhere but at least it gives the Skins the match if other offers come in. I believe the transition tag requires the following - I would assume Dockery is worth this:

A transition player has received a minimum offer of the average of the top 10 salaries of last season at the player's position or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater.
A transition player designation gives the club a first-refusal right to match within seven days an offer sheet given to the player by another club after his contract expires. If the club matches, it retains the player. If it does not match, it receives no compensation. Transition players can be signed from March 3 through July 22.See my post above

See my post above


Sorry about that - I missed your post - is this what happened to Steve Hutchinson with the Seahawks to the Vikings in that the Vikings made the contract in a way the Seahawks had no chance to match?

Good cap info, all--as usual.

As for Dock, I really think they are letting him walk. When they want to sign someone, they do it quick. But if they want someone to come down in price, they rarely get their man. This is the problem with Snyder's reputation (deserved or not)--agents and players feel they should get a bank-breaking payday, and when they don't, they take it as a sign of no love from the FO. Then they walk, even when the deal elsewhere is only marginally better. We make the blockbuster deals, but can't close the close ones.

We could also transition tag him for considerably less, but the problem with that is someone for sure would put some sort of offer in since there is no penalty, and then you have to match it. Plus you get into poison pills and whatnot.

Yeah I'll agree with that. Restructuring should be done in moderation. The only time it makes total sense to just go for broke and kick all of the cap hits into the future is when you really think this is our year to win it all.

But I don't think we're at that point (LOL). We should restructure to give us enough space to bring in the good young talent we need. But we shouldn't go on a crazy shopping spree.

Ideally, we'd have more draft picks and build our talent pool that way, but that'd make too much sense!

It wouldnt surprise me that the skins dont sign dockery. That their style let go of our own and over pay for someone else's crap. Then go man we screwed up again. Its been happing since 99.