Tom "Iceman" Brady

Lets face it, in a fair world, the Patriots lose 9/10 times yesterday. By all accounts, the Patriots were outplayed yesterday. But the world isn't fair. A bunch of supposedly random events came together yesterday to bail Brady's ass out of 3 interceptions. When it came down to the wire, the Patriot defense stiffened, and the Charger defense had some gaping holes to throw into. Brady just did what he's paid to do on that drive.

I said yesterday that the game chooses it's champion. Obviously thats not decided yet (I hope), but the game "decided" that despite the talent discrepancy yesterday, the Chargers were going one and done. The Chargers were the best team in the league, but they, like every other team in history, needed some good fortune to win in the playoffs. They didn't get any. Of the 5 fumbles that were put on the ground by both teams, all 5 were recovered by the Patriots.

Therefore, rings is not a reasonable arguement of QB play, it simply doesn't tell you anything. It's the ultimate goal, it isnt how you get there.

The following guys have rings in the last 10 years:
Brad Johnson
Trent Dilfer
Kurt Warner

When do these guys get their HOF tickets?

In Brady's six years as a starter, he has yet to outperform Manning in ANY season. The question of who is better is downright ridiculous.

So to keep with the theme of Tom "Icyguy" Brady, let me hijack the thread with this question.

Without using the terms "rings" or "championships", you are the coach of a team playing for the division crown in Week 17. One game, who do you want behind center: Brady or Carson Palmer?

The following guys have rings in the last 10 years:
Brad Johnson
Trent Dilfer
Kurt Warner

When do these guys get their HOF tickets?

In Brady's six years as a starter, he has yet to outperform Manning in ANY season. The question of who is better is downright ridiculous.


true, they each have A ring.
brady has THREE rings and TWO superbowl mvps in SIX years.

how many does peyton have again, i seem to forget ?

So to keep with the theme of Tom "Icyguy" Brady, let me hijack the thread with this question.

Without using the terms "rings" or "championships", you are the coach of a team playing for the division crown in Week 17. One game, who do you want behind center: Brady or Carson Palmer?


brady.

Tom Brady is good, but let's be real.....THE PATRIOTS SHOULD NOT HAVE WON THAT GAME!!!!!! I don't understand why Brady is getting all of this praise, he threw 3 interceptions, 3 INTERCEPTIONS!!!!!!!! He had a 57.6 QB rating, please explain to me why everyone is on his nuts as normal. The Chargers should have won that game, they had several key, stupid plays that cost them from winning. Brady threw 3 intereptions, he was soooooo lucky he got that one back in the fourth quarter, unbelievable. Brady is the only QB in the league who can throw 3 interceptions in a playoff game and then be praised, he got lucky, and I really hope Peyton beats him.

i would bet that peyton manning would give up all his stats to have a superbowl ring.
do you think tom brady would give up his rings to have better stats ?

When Tom brady does any of this... all of dan marino's records, ill say he is better, until then, not a damn chance.


Most Attempts, Career: 8,358[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Marino#_note-ATTleader)
Most Completions, Career: 4,967[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Marino#_note-COMPleader) (broken by Brett Favre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_Favre) in 2006)
Most Yards Passing, Career: 61,361[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Marino#_note-YDSleader)
Most Touchdown Passes, Career: 420[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Marino#_note-TDleader)
Most Passing Yards, Season: 5,084 in 1984[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Marino#_note-YDSleader)
Most Touchdown Passes, Season: 48[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Marino#_note-TDleader) (since broken by Peyton Manning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyton_Manning) 49)
Most Games, 400 or more Yards Passing, Season: 4 in 1984
Most Games, 300 or more Yards Passing, Career: 60
Most Seasons, 3,000 or more Yards Passing: 13 (1984-92, 1994-95, 1997-98) (since broken by Brett Favre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_Favre) 15)
Most Consecutive Seasons, 3,000 or more Yards Passing: 9 (1984-92) (since broken by Brett Favre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_Favre) 15)
Most Games, Four or more Touchdown Passes, Career: 21
Most Games, Four or more Touchdown Passes, Season: 6 in 1984
Lowest Percentage, Passes Intercepted, Rookie Season: 2.03 in 1983 (296-6)
Most Seasons Leading League, Attempts: 5 (1984, 1986, 1988, 1992, 1997)[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Marino#_note-ATTleader)
Most Seasons Leading League, Completions: 6 (1984-86, 1988, 1992, 1997)[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Marino#_note-COMPleader)
Most Seasons, 40 or more Touchdown Passes: 2 (1984, 1986)[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Marino#_note-TDleader)
100 TD Passes in Fewest Amount of Games to Start Career: 44 (9/7/86 at San Diego)
200 TD passes in Fewest Amount of Games to Start Career: 89 (9/17/89 at New England)
300 TD passes in Fewest Amount of Games to Start Career: 157 (9/4/94 vs. New England)
Most Points scored, QB: 2574
Highest TD-INT differential: +168Ask a Dolphins fan if they would want Marino's state or Brady's SB wins. I bet about 99% pick the SB wins.

Tom Brady is good, but let's be real.....THE PATRIOTS SHOULD NOT HAVE WON THAT GAME!!!!!! I don't understand why Brady is getting all of this praise, he threw 3 interceptions, 3 INTERCEPTIONS!!!!!!!! He had a 57.6 QB rating, please explain to me why everyone is on his nuts as normal. The Chargers should have won that game, they had several key, stupid plays that cost them from winning. Brady threw 3 intereptions, he was soooooo lucky he got that one back in the fourth quarter, unbelievable. Brady is the only QB in the league who can throw 3 interceptions in a playoff game and then be praised, he got lucky, and I really hope Peyton beats him.
Its becaus that when it came down to the win in the 4th he did what was needed to win the game. Yes the Chargers made mistakes but they had a chance at the end to win the game but failed.

The Patriots really amaze me, they just find ways to win while Marty and co. seem to find ways to lose.

i would bet that peyton manning would give up all his stats to have a superbowl ring.
do you think tom brady would give up his rings to have better stats ?Of course you'd rather have the ring, but that doesn't make him better.