Tom "Iceman" Brady

LOL, I love the epic bumps. People are going back through their old threads and seeing where they hit.

I do think Brady is one of the best ever, but I do also think Manning has always had a worst OL and D around him. He had to make all the adjustments on his own. Now it would be sweet if we lived in a test tube world and could take Manning, put him on the Pats for all those years and see how he would've done. Or Brady on the Colts.

Bracing for embarrassment....

Although not a perfect example to back my thoughts but when Brady went down Cassel looked great with the Pats, but Collins has looked so-so this season with the Colts. Perhaps one can argue, Cassel did so well because the parts around him are better than what the Colts have provided Collins. Ergo, the better team (Pats) allowed Brady a better chance at success than Manning has ever had with the Colts.

Brady is the best QB of all time IMO and I've seen many greats play but his numbers and rings speak for themselves

LOL, I love the epic bumps. People are going back through their old threads and seeing where they hit.

I could go back FOUR weeks to the THREAD I started where I GUARANTEED that Rex Grossman would be the starting QB this year.

I said everyone could make fun of me if I was wrong.

It was just after halftime of the BUCS preseason game.

When all the Redskins Insiders and most of this BOARD had been convinced that Beck was the starter.

For a more recent QB hit?

Brady is the best QB of all time IMO and I've seen many greats play but his numbers and rings speak for themselves

cheating and spying on other teams and getting their signals for that same period that the super bowls were won have/should/would/will always question how that player and his team got an unfair advantage over another team.

I could go back FOUR weeks to the THREAD I started where I GUARANTEED that Rex Grossman would be the starting QB this year.

I said everyone could make fun of me if I was wrong.

It was just after halftime of the BUCS preseason game.

When all the Redskins Insiders and most of this BOARD had been convinced that Beck was the starter.

For a more recent QB hit?

Quit you day job and buy a one-way ticket to Bristol. SS told me they take walk-ons. I am sure you will give Dilfer a run for his money.

Quit you day job and buy a one-way ticket to Bristol. SS told me they take walk-ons. I am sure you will give Dilfer a run for his money.

Is that the best you can do?

Because that's pathetic.

This has to be the most generous group of football fans around. We got a Cam thread, a Brady thread, a Andre Carter thread....geez. It's all good.

Is that the best you can do?

Because that's pathetic.

Well I had some actual posts which you conveniently ignored.

This has to be the most generous group of football fans around. We got a Cam thread, a Brady thread, a Andre Carter thread....geez. It's all good.

The only Redskins player threads are the ones to complain about them...or ex player threads (AH/Campbell/McNabb etc).

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Quit you day job and buy a one-way ticket to Bristol. SS told me they take walk-ons. I am sure you will give Dilfer a run for his money.

:laughing-

Also, idc who wins this debate. Brady and Manning are two of the best qb's to ever walk on a football field, and both have won plenty and then some. I'd take both over pretty much every qb in Redskins history, and yes I'm only saying that because I've never seen Sonny Jurgenson and Sammy Baugh play.