The Huddle
01-12-2007, 10:48 PM
You'd think by now Redskin nation would have grown tired of the idea that there's any one draft pick or free gent out there who can turn the team around just like that. What I'd love to see is for the team to trade this pick down and pick up a handful of lower round choices. They won't do it, but I can still hope.
GoSkins!
01-13-2007, 07:26 AM
This is why the 'skins suck at the draft: They have no patience.
I agree with much of what you said. Building through the draft is what we need to return to. Trading away over half our picks has hurt us.
What I think many fans and people at Redskins park hold on to is the memory of Lavar and Samuals being picked in the first round, making an impact, and becoming probowl coggs. Who have we picked up outside of the first round who impacts us? Cooley, definetely, Golston, maybe.
The one player that they should look to to understand your point is Dockery. He was not a high pick, and has been able to make an impact in the last couple of years.
Trading Portis should be evaluated, but I'm not sure I'd go there. I think he comes back next year big for us. He is a player who plays hard and cares about winning even after the big payday.
Also, drafting QB's is like drafting WR's out of college. Hit or miss, 30% chance of success. I don't think you trade much to go after guys like that. Think about the Rivers for Manning trade. Just take the best available guy who you think would fit.
dmek25
01-13-2007, 07:53 AM
Does anyone remember getting trade offers back in '04 when we used the #5 pick on Sean Taylor?
You'd think people would have been banging down the doors for the chance at him or Kellen Winslow Jr. but it never happened.
how do you know this? people may have come calling, but maybe the offers just werent good enough
redsk1
01-26-2007, 03:42 PM
Damn, i'm pretty bored w/ this offseason and its Jan. So hear goes...
Seeing that the skins have several holes to fill on D and some depth issues could the skins load up on draft picks this year by trading down several times.
We have the 6th overall pick. I would imagine we could probably get a middle round 1st (lets say 15-20) and a 3rd potentially. So for our 15th overall we could get a late 1st rounder/early 2nd rounder and a 3rd or 4th rounder. This would turn our only high draft pick into a late first round and two 3rd round draft picks. We could then always trade up w/ our two 3rds to get another 2nd round.
In summary we could have a late first rounder and 2 third round draft picks or a late first round and second round pick.
Either way a late first round could be used on Buster Davis, lb from Florida State, Patrick Willis (mlb) or Paul Pozl. sp?, Penn St. & have 1 or 2 picks left over.
Thought of trading down a couple of times to accumulate more picks or staying w/ the 6th.
redsk1
01-26-2007, 03:53 PM
Or Blades from Pitt as a late first or early 2nd, who is highly regarded.
wilsowilso
01-26-2007, 03:58 PM
We have the 6th overall pick. I would imagine we could probably get a middle round 1st (lets say 15-20) and a 3rd potentially. So for our 15th overall we could get a late 1st rounder/early 2nd rounder and a 3rd or 4th rounder. This would turn our only high draft pick into a late first round and two 3rd round draft picks. We could then always trade up w/ our two 3rds to get another 2nd round.
In summary we could have a late first rounder and 2 third round draft picks or a late first round and second round pick.
Man you need to get your hands on a draft value chart. The #6 pick can get us more than you are asking for if we trade back late in the first round. The best breakdown I've seen with regards to the value chart and the points system is trading back to the Jets pick which is late in the first round which would land us both of their second rounders in return. It's very very close with regards to that point value system that most of the war rooms use so much. Except for our dysfunctional war room of course. They have big problems following the value chart.
What I'm saying is the #6 pick has a pretty high value. If we trade back we really need the full value.
redsk1
01-26-2007, 04:10 PM
Yea, I'm kinda throwing these things out b/c i'm too lazy to use that value chart. You are right too about our warroom too.
So we would have 3 picks, a late 1st and 2nds. A very good lb and 2 good cb's, maybe a DE. Depends alot on what FA we'll go after. However i think i would take the 3 or 4 high picks. Thoughts....
redsk1
01-26-2007, 04:20 PM
Alright, i checked out the value chart, very cool. We should be able to get some big time value back if we choose to do so.
FRPLG
01-26-2007, 04:42 PM
...or Paul Pozl. sp?, Penn St.
I don't think Pozl is considered a first or even second rounder right now. Kiper says he seriosuly struggles in coverage and has been getting over powered at the senior bowl.
dmek25
01-27-2007, 08:50 AM
1st ~deals like that come once in a lifetime and everyone knows this pick has to count for the skins. secondly browns pick before us so.... But i see ur point
I think teams would move up for a chance at Calvin branch and if that was to occur it would be with the likes of Atlanta
you might be a prophet. lelie just opted for free agency. so Atlanta might be in the market for a wide receiver