Bill B
01-12-2007, 03:49 PM
If alan branch is available we have to take him at 6
But lets say the Cleveland Browns who desperately need a nost tackle for their 3-4 defense come to you and offer a lot of picks -- I know Branch would help us but if a deal like the Saints for Ricky Williams comes along you got to take it.
Schneed10
01-12-2007, 03:56 PM
You never know what another FO might give up if they're enamored with a player still available at our spot. Mike Ditka gave us all of the Saints draft choices (including #7 overall) just to move up to #5 overall to draft Ricky Williams. The beauty of that trade is that Casserly selected the player we wanted anyway - Champ Bailey. Trading down is a no brainer IF we still get the guy we wanted at our original slot.
Actually Ditka gave us the 12th overall pick, and the rest of his draft, to slide up to number 5. We then traded a good portion of what Ditka gave us, and the #12, to the Bears so we could slide up and take Champ Bailey at #7. The Bears then took Cade McCown at #12 (LOL).
But that little history lesson is neither here nor there in this discussion. Point being, yeah if someone really loves a certain player, they just might throw the world at you.
Best thing we can hope for is Calvin Johnson falls to us. I doubt that would happen, but if it did, I'd imagine a team or two would be willing to offer us the moon.
firstdown
01-12-2007, 04:32 PM
The best thing for me is I do not really follow college football so who ever they pick seems good to me. Now yes I do know who the Vicks, Bush's, Youngs, but after those type names I have no clue.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha
01-12-2007, 04:34 PM
I would be very happy to trade all the way down to the Jets' 26th pick. The trade chart suggests that if we traded down from thr 6th pick to the 26th pick, we would also get the Jets 2 second picks. I would much prefer to have 3 picks in the first two rounds than one very high pick. I think this is a very plausible trade scenario if Oklahoma running back Adrian Peterson declares for the draft. Peterson would likely be available with the 6th pick and the Jets need a back in a big way.
diehardskin2982
01-12-2007, 04:39 PM
But lets say the Cleveland Browns who desperately need a nost tackle for their 3-4 defense come to you and offer a lot of picks -- I know Branch would help us but if a deal like the Saints for Ricky Williams comes along you got to take it.
1st ~deals like that come once in a lifetime and everyone knows this pick has to count for the skins. secondly browns pick before us so.... But i see ur point
I think teams would move up for a chance at Calvin branch and if that was to occur it would be with the likes of Atlanta
hail_2_da_skins
01-12-2007, 05:14 PM
That #6 pick becomes valuable when other teams become desperate. Hopefully this year the Skins get lucky and some team team wants a certain player bad enough.
jbcjr14
01-12-2007, 07:22 PM
Jarvis Moss just declared he will enter the draft (DE Florida). This guy has had some injuries but has overcome and has become a dominant force in college football. Maybe we do take a trade down and snag him in the late to mid 1st round and pick up a 3rd/4th pick??
alaskaN8
01-12-2007, 07:42 PM
if we move up would denver still have rights to our pick?
Beemnseven
01-12-2007, 08:07 PM
Does anyone remember getting trade offers back in '04 when we used the #5 pick on Sean Taylor?
You'd think people would have been banging down the doors for the chance at him or Kellen Winslow Jr. but it never happened.
TenandSix:Unacceptable
01-12-2007, 09:36 PM
This is why the 'skins suck at the draft: They have no patience.
We are so desperate to have someone who impacts us NOW, that we don't see the benifit of taking in a full crop of players who will help us down the road. Generally speaking, first rounders, esecially earlier selections, can be plugged into the starting lineup right away. The reason that teams who build through the draft have success is more because of the later round picks who turn out to be future stars. These players cost very little compared to free agent/high draft pick ups. The only problem is you have to wait. You will not usually get an immediate impact. It's funny, when I read most 'skins fan's posts they seem to echo that, "Who do we need NOW?", mentality. The real advantage to trading down from #6 is that it would give us more chances at cheap, bang-for-the-buck starters and depth/role players who fill out our roster and support our star players. As far as I can see, the Redskins always have their fare share of stars but lack overall quality. That has been the consistant fatal flaw of the team along with no one at quarterback and constant coaching changes. Having an old coach who NEEDS to win NOW, and an owner who desperately WANTS to win NOW only serves to compound this trait which, in turn, ensures our continued struggles.
One must only look across town to the MCI center to see how a team is built through the draft. The Capitals have an embarasment of riches when it comes to organizational depth, but they are not winning, yet. You will see, in a few years as their young stars gain experience, they will be in position to add an important piece or two through free agency and compete year after year for the Stanley Cup. It takes an incredible amount of patience, however. Patience is a trait the Redskins sorely lack.
With that said, what the Redskins as an organization SHOULD do is trade Portis, (Only because of salary and milage, not age or skill. In fact, if the plan is to win NOW, you MUST have a can't miss talent at RB, QB or WR.), and get rid of as many pricey veterans as humanly possible. They should then trade down from their high pick as many times as they can get good lower round value in return while keeping at least two first day selections. Then they should suffer through a couple of down years with a nucleus that includes Cambell, Betts, Cooley and Taylor and slowly aquire a deep and well built foundation. Then, when the salary cap is under control they should SLOWLY add pieces until they have a team that can contend year in and year out.
That, of course, is assuming they believe Cambell is the answer for the future at QB. Not some decent guy but THE piece to build the team around. If after the last two years of watching him everday, they have come to the conclusion that he is in fact NOT the long term solution, you can trade him in the near future while his value is still somewhat high and draft whichever QB in this or next years drafts that fits the Franchise QB mold. None of this makes sense unless you have the QB position solidified. If Campbell is not the answer, trading down only makes sense if this years draft doesn't have the QB you want or a WR who you will eventually play with that QB. If THE QB is there, you do whatever you can to get him. For almost any other type of player you WAIT to see if he falls to you and you have a draft down contingency if he doesn't.
What the Redskins WILL do is draft high, go for the top free agents, and field a team of overpaid millionares who will lack the cohesion to win consistently. But who knows? Maybe we'll get lucky and win it all. That's why being a 'Skins fan is so fun, kind of like betting on green in roulette.
(I know I'm going to get burned for this out of place rant and I'm kind of chuckling to myself imagining the responses, if anyone even takes the time.)