brent
01-11-2007, 07:32 PM
As far as I'm concerned there are two concurrent seasons:
The one where we went 5 and whatever.
The other one, where we finished 1-1. That needs to be 2-0 this year, and every year, and the players need to understand that above all else...we remember if they won or lost to the Cowboys.
Never, ever, EVER get trashed by the Cowboys again like we did early in the season! There is no excuse for acting disinterested while we're getting thumped by our rival.
#56fanatic
01-11-2007, 07:52 PM
Since the season is over, I have been thinking about how our rilvaries aren't what they used to be. I remember the games against Philly, NY, St Louis and Dallas (sucks) and how much the PLAYERS got into it. With free agency, these rilvaries just don't have the same umph. I remember Joe Theismann just stirring the proverbial pot during Dallas week and he absolutely HATED THEM. I was at the game in '83 when there was a fight in the end zone because the Skins were spanking them, scored again and were about to launch the "fun bunch" high five and the little dallas puss balls got all butt hurt and tried to break it up. (which they failed to do by the way). Or in the '82 championship at RFK when the O line was laughing at the Dallas D line knowing they couldn't stop Riggins or Washington. There was real hatred against the rivals. I would love to see a current player stir the pot like Theismann or Riggins did. This team needs personality. Remember when Joey T scored a TD and spiked the ball in the cowpukes db's face and a fight broke out in the endzone? GREAT stuff. I miss that kind of passion.
Just a rambling thought...
I would love to have that rivalry with Dallas again, or anyone in our division. the problem is, we dont keep people for more than 3 years, so they dont develop that hatred for those teams. whether that is due to FA or just our organization as a whole, I have no idea. but, seems weird that Philly can keep most of the core guys around. Seems like we name core guys, but then get rid of them. I am sure if Campbell, Portis, Betts, Moss and Washington, Taylor, Rogers, Rocky, Cooley all stick around for a long while there could be some of that rivalry coming back.
squrrelco3
01-11-2007, 11:33 PM
Another issue with the whole rivalry thing is that both teams need to be able to beat the other on any given day...with the exception of 2005 I think the Redskins have been something like 3-12 against Dallas since Norv Turner left (Norv always seemed to have thier number). Now if the 'Skins can start piling on a few wins again then the Rivalry will take care of itself.
gibbsisgod
01-11-2007, 11:38 PM
Another issue with the whole rivalry thing is that both teams need to be able to beat the other on any given day...with the exception of 2005 I think the Redskins have been something like 3-12 against Dallas since Norv Turner left (Norv always seemed to have thier number). Now if the 'Skins can start piling on a few wins again then the Rivalry will take care of itself.I think you may have Norv confused with somebody else. He didn't have a winning record against ANY NFC East opponent when he was our coach. That was when Arizona was still in our division, so please don't think that he had anybody's number.
squrrelco3
01-12-2007, 12:06 AM
I think you may have Norv confused with somebody else. He didn't have a winning record against ANY NFC East opponent when he was our coach. That was when Arizona was still in our division, so please don't think that he had anybody's number.
I stand corrected (sort-of):
our record against Dallas since Gibbs 1.0:
9 - 19
Record by Coach:
Pettibone: 1-1
Norv: 4-10
Schottenhiemer: 0-2
Spurrier: 1-3
Gibbs 2.0: 3-3
So depending on how we do next year, that rivalry may start to crank up again...what we really need is a win with playoff implications to get it rolling again.
The Huddle
01-12-2007, 10:47 AM
Free agency has really sucked the juice out of all the NFL rivalries. As my father once said, "There are no real teams in the NFL anymore, just temporary collections of highly paid individuals."
I still hate the Cowboys, but it's just not the same and I guess it never will be.